It's impossible to kill a Zed in lane

Hallbuster·Jun 28, 2017·1 votes·556 views

His shadow swap is the reason why. I wish there was something that could be done.

14 Comments

WitchQueen AnnieJun 28, 20174 votes

Assuming equal skill he is hard to kill as Vladimir but he shouldn't be able to kill you either.

He's on a timer (under pressure). Not you. He needs kills early to try and snowball otherwise he'll probably lose unless his team is ahead.

Pre Ult, his damage is very low unless he lands a double Shuriken (its very hard to land this consistently or at all) and/or manages to get in your face and spam autos. Dodge what you can and heal back with free Qs. Just don't randomly fire Es to farm though because he can aggro you whenever your E is down (W shadow swap into your face, Shuriken, Spin, autos with you only having a Q to trade back).

If he gets his Ult, just focus on sustaining back any damage you cannot dodge. If he Ults you when you have tons of health simply Pool 0.25 seconds before he appears at the X and slither away in a random diagonal direction. If he Ults you when you very low health, you could Pool 0.25 seconds before he appears and then Flash while still in Pool in a random diagonal direction and keep walking away. Without any additional damage landing from his Shurikens, his Ult does nearly no damage.

As soon as you get 1 Zhonya, he cannot kill you 1 vs 1 and he becomes very useless without snowballs kills in the game as a whole (he can only kill an ADC and not even the ADC once they have life steal and are reasonably even/ahead with a few items).

He's an over-glorified split pusher if his team is even/ahead (or if he's fed), that's about it. In a 5 vs 5 where he can't kill the Mid he's not worth much later. You might lose if your team doesn't know how to out-rotate his splits but otherwise, he should be at an inherent disadvantage.

Kai GuyJun 28, 20171 votes

Well said. Only thing I can add is that you should be able to bully him out of easy cs forcing him to use Q for farm and then hes down poke giving you an even easier time to farm for the late game. Ya don't need to kill him, making him backs gold loss and experience loss if your able to remain in lane and farm more after.

rtbf221651412Jun 28, 20172 votes

Best story ever. 10/10 would get cancer again.

NahuiJun 28, 20171 votes

There is. 22 seconds of something actually.

Pippen The ShortJun 28, 20171 votes

Anivia and Lissandra . 'nuf said.

Kai GuyJun 28, 20172 votes

Op is a vlad one trick.

HallbusterJun 28, 20171 votes

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Op is a vlad one trick.

Yes, I suppose I am :/. Still pretty disappointed I'm climbing at a pretty slow rate though.

Kai GuyJun 28, 20172 votes

Nothing wrong with getting really good on a champion, just some are easier in various elos to climb then others. So if its a slow climb don't trip it that much as your still climbing. If you want to increase your speed you may wish to branch out but that's also an investment of time and your gonna be working from the ground up if ya never played them.

HallbusterJun 28, 20171 votes

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Nothing wrong with getting really good on a champion, just some are easier in various elos to climb then others. So if its a slow climb don't trip it that much as your still climbing. If you want to increase your speed you may wish to branch out but that's also an investment of time and your gonna be working from the ground up if ya never played them.

Yes, I suppose learning different champions can help.

Kai GuyJun 28, 20171 votes

The reason we call it a champions Kit is because that's where all the champions tools to a win live. You can use a hammer for more then just pounding down nails, and some hammers have more versatility then others like say sledge vs Claw, but If your job requires you to cut a bunch planks then your gonna wish ya had a good Saw for the job because it will make your life a lot easier.