What were people expecting exactly when crit was nerfed?

dunder kill·6/5/2018, 2:23:23 PM·35 votes·14,492 views

"Rito crit is OP nerf nerf nerf"

Riot guts crit

"Rito WTF! On hit marksmen BROKEN WTFFFFFFFFF"

Like no shit? What were people expecting to happen? Were people expecting people to continue to play a gutted subclass of marksmen? We've come full circle for like the fifth time

On-hit->AD Pen/casters->Crit->On-hit->AD Pen/casters->Crit->on and on and on

Don't demand half of a role be gutted then complain that the remaining become stronger and more popular

61 Comments

D357R0Y3R6/5/2018, 2:29:46 PM21 votes

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Riot guts crit

"Rito WTF! On hit marksmen BROKEN WTFFFFFFFFF"

You mean, just like anyone predicted and asked riot to nerf ezreal and kai'sa at the same time?

did you not see the post of doublelift when the change was announced? guinsoo was left untouched and ezreal received nothing but bork buff we all knew what would happen

except riot for some reasons because they're unable to do 2+2

Risk of Fate6/5/2018, 3:07:16 PM16 votes

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Aptest6/5/2018, 6:36:02 PM6 votes

they were asking for and expecting ADCs as a whole to be guttered. not the balance of Kaisa and Ezreal versus Cait and Ashe to be changed, but for all of the above to suck VS Darius and Jax.

Marshbouy6/5/2018, 4:23:25 PM6 votes

People won't be happy unless riot just straight up makes every marksman need to spend 1.5x as much gold for items.

EDIT: see below for proof

MetalGearTeemo6/5/2018, 7:41:39 PM6 votes

its almost like we want blanket nerfs to burst in general. [slayer-jinx-wink] and riot thinks they know what their community actually wants is 4 differnet marksmen being seen every game for a month or so.

ChaddyFantome6/5/2018, 7:52:01 PM3 votes

I was expecting ADCs to not delete me faster than i can delete them while playing an Assassin, survive my Burst and still DPS everyone else.

what about you?

Athenes Lulu6/6/2018, 11:01:48 AM3 votes

nah people want all adcs to be gutted

gotta bring back those mage/bruiser/assassin/tank overlords :^^^^)))))

[sg-lulu]

Troll for Trump6/6/2018, 2:53:31 AM2 votes

On hit isn't broken.

Ez and Luc were the only on-hits that jumped up. Kai'sa was already batshit crazy. Kog and Varus are still meh. It's a somewhat healthy mix of variety for ADCs atm.

ADCs as a whole still need more gutting.

Trash MammaI6/6/2018, 2:52:03 AM1 votes

Legit nobody was complaining that Crit ADC's were OP. They were complaining that ADC's in general were too OP and that they had the exact same build path amongst all adcs. There was no variety there was no difference. You built a BF sword into a zeal item on everyone. Nobody wanted crit nerfed, they wanted it to not be the ONLY thing they built nor did people want you to be able to kill a tank in 2 seconds flat before they even get near you

Hyquiem6/6/2018, 3:25:22 AM1 votes

What’s an onhit marksman. My azir does more dps then Vayne.

rtbf2216514126/6/2018, 3:42:08 AM1 votes

I think you forgot rito's definition of 'gut' is nerf one part and buff another part while the community isn't paying attention so that it evens out.

See, riot doesn't like being wrong, so adding in some uncounterable true damage (Except for one crit resist item) is a better idea in their eyes.

JackMcSnipeyz6/5/2018, 7:23:17 PM1 votes

This happened before it always happened. People forgot the on hit meta, or ths varus jhin lethality meta. Then when you point out crit adc used to be bad they reply with "spotted the X main xD".

I like the changes tho, on hit just needs to to be BALANCED (not gutted) accordinly to crit.

HàrrowR6/6/2018, 12:09:49 PM1 votes

People expect us adc players to just roll over and die apparently,since anything other than that and its ADC favoritism or buffs disguised as nerfs etc

Spoofghoul6/6/2018, 5:10:21 PM1 votes

{quoted}

"Rito crit is OP nerf nerf nerf"

Riot guts crit

"Rito WTF! On hit marksmen BROKEN WTFFFFFFFFF"

Like no shit? What were people expecting to happen? Were people expecting people to continue to play a gutted subclass of marksmen? We've come full circle for like the fifth time

On-hit->AD Pen/casters->Crit->On-hit->AD Pen/casters->Crit->on and on and on

Don't demand half of a role be gutted then complain that the remaining become stronger and more popular

well after the 5th time coming full circle you can hardly blame these people

i mean there are people getting PAID to make these things balanced but look they screwed up 5 times in a row maybe they should stop paying those people until stuff is balanced and see what happens I bet they can suddenly get things to work nicely I mean 5 times, not even a ball of mud is that stupid this reeks of intent

It's not that people do not see this, they see crit being op they want it toned down, needless to say they don't want something else being broken. It's kind of obvious a blind guy could see it.

LordGeovanni6/7/2018, 1:40:48 AM1 votes

Crit is not gutted. people are just playing expecting the same level of Power in that they did get more power With base hp buffs Base ad buffs (nerfs up to level 5) Infinity edge ad buff and true damage buff Also crit chance buff with any attack speed item. Adcs are a problem Not just crit Because when you nerf crit You just go back to the problem you had before you buffed it. On hit adcs shredding everything then when you want to nerf on hit they will get armor pen again Thankfully they wont go back to Building health items because riot gutted those items for everyone. THey will just go back to broken crit when those other 2 are nerfed (not that its likely they will nerf them but rather buff adcs back up. Marksmen are never bad Marskmen are only ever bad compared to other Marksmen (and mages in a certain situation). Similar with Mages. Mages are never bad they are just bad compared to other mages and Marksmen (which in Mages are supposed to be worse than Marksmen in team fights ) Mages Are supposed to do burst but not one shot like they do It infringes on what Assassins are supposed to do their burst is supposed to chunk In Windows of attacks not all out fighting because their Cooldowns are Negliable that by time you finish casting your 3rd spell your first is only 1 second away which gives them high dps all in burst. Mages are supposed to burst and have long down times. Adversely Marksmen Do high Damage in short periods of time and do it constantly. When they are supposed to be doing Low damage constnatly so that it adds up to high damage long periods of time

IcyPepper6/7/2018, 3:39:11 AM1 votes

I dunno, I mean crit probably shouldn't have been nerfed so hard but I do enjoy having a little more build diversity and decision making.

Then again, from what other people are saying it might be that I just have a narrow view of how hard marksman have been hit. I honestly have no clue how clueless I am.