"Just QSS the Zed ult"

Cloud273·Mar 14, 2016·2 votes·1,479 views

If people are smart enough to QSS a Zed ult (let's pretend that everyone is smart enough to get this), why couldn't you QSS a Poppy (old Poppy) ult? The cooldown on Poppy's ult was like 3 times as long as Zed's ult cooldown, and unlike Zed, Poppy's abilities actually scale with AP, so QSS actually reduced some or her damge. So please explain to me why was Poppy's old ult "toxic". Sure she was still invincible after you QSS the ult, but at least the QSS actually reduced some of her damage. Zed will still tear you to shreds with the rest of his kit. And Poppy's not manaless, so it's not like she has infinite harass/waveclear.

7 Comments

Edge of DaybreakMar 14, 20167 votes

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Sure she was still invincible after you QSS the ult, but at least the QSS actually reduced some of her damage.

You actually typed this but don't see a problem here?

EndlessSorcererMar 14, 20161 votes

Poppy could ult any target and render herself immune to every other champion. If a champion had QSS, she would just ult somebody else and still be completely immune to the rest of their team.

Zed's ultimate only affects the given target. If they use QSS to remove his ultimate, it greatly reduces his damage. While he could ult another target, that typically means that he isn't hitting a priority target since they would usually have QSS (ADC) or Zhonya's Hourglass (APC).

ScriptBrandMar 14, 20161 votes

since when did old poppy need her ult to not tear someone to shreds? since when did old poppy actually ult her target and not the support? old poppy ults the support, becomes immune to everyone but the support, and proceeds to 2 hit everyone with the ridiculous ratios on her q and the on hit from triforce

Mr Broken WingsMar 14, 20161 votes

Poppy was never played, but when she was then qss was a viable counteritem. Your point? I mean hello, poppy wasnt in any game at all. People would start doing it if it would activly be important. But even when poppy was picked she was useless for the first 15 minutes because of her horrible earlygame ( that was btw intended by riot because they didnt want her to ever be strong with her kit) so building defensivly against her wasnt as necessary back then. Also you dont qss a lot of poppys damage while you do qss a lot of damage from zed. These are 2 completly different things.

Cloud273Mar 14, 20161 votes

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Poppy was never played, but when she was then qss was a viable counteritem. Your point? I mean hello, poppy wasnt in any game at all. People would start doing it if it would activly be important. But even when poppy was picked she was useless for the first 15 minutes because of her horrible earlygame ( that was btw intended by riot because they didnt want her to ever be strong with her kit) so building defensivly against her wasnt as necessary back then. Also you dont qss a lot of poppys damage while you do qss a lot of damage from zed. These are 2 completly different things.

Unlike Zed