Everytime I get back to this game, I remember why I don't get back to this game.

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the games honestly fine. Tanks are still strong people just don't seem to realize it. The problem is that the game is pretty balanced right now but volatile. So that the game is balanced but sense no one seems to know how to play tanks or teamfights or objectives right. It allows certain things that wouldn't be strong to be stronger then they really are.

It's like if we gave adc's 1 hp and there were 4 assasains on every team and people didn't understand killing the adc is really easy and effecient and went to kill everyone and saving the adc for last everytime, you could see how adcs would be really weak but because people play the teamfights wrong all of suddenly everything seems wrong and people complain about X or Y.

Now we have it were tanks are fine, ad's are fine, mages are fine because there in the middle of the map and effect everything so mid lane is always fine. Jungle is fine, Supports are definitely fine. The only thing I wouldn't know anything about is top lane but that seems to be in a decent spot as well.

But the problem is that people play teamfights and lanes like garbage and instead of learning to play better it's easier to assume everything you do it right and it's your teammates and the game and Riot and the balance that's all wrong. Playing better isn't always about being mechanically better it's also knowing what your supposed to be doing, which is what people really lack more then anything. Every lane is fine right now and has viable and good champions. Hell because no one plays the game decently even assasains can be played pretty effectively below plat. But every lane has viable champs and it's balanced. Sure you might not be able to play the champions you want to play and be on an equal footing. But that's every season. Every season has champions in every lane that are better then another. But not every season or meta can if played right be as impactful in the game as they are currently.

Sure you might play good and your team might do bad in a game causing you to lose. But that's one of the downsides to a team game is sometimes your team doesn't play the best.

Maybe in lower MMRs the bit about teamfights is true, but I play at an MMR where people at least generally have a clue how to teamfight, and frankly I've seen some impressively well-played teamfights in my games. Even in this MMR, and when I watch higher level play, the power of ADC (and now enchanter) items and how it's warping the entire meta because glaringly apparent to me. I don't want to take away the good things those classes have gotten, I want the rest of the roster to have similarly good things. Tanks are meta for 2 reason right now: 1. CC trains are necessary to catch and have a chance to kill marksman (more precisely, they are better than anything else at doing so in a teamfight scenario). 2. exists in its current state, and is acting as a crutch for to get them enough durability to actually be able to soak damage for some amount of time, the item's active is legit broken OP, especially its interaction with 's active. The current state of itemization in game is the primary reason that the meta is what it is atm, trying to play divers and juggernauts feels awful, and they are really bad as an archetype because they don't have good enough items to compete.

Compared to that i prefer the game even now.

Sure it sounded like things were more... random back then.

But not only do i prefer short games. I dont like taking 20 seconds of having a tank run at me while i auto. That doesnt sound fun for either champion.

And if you want a full tank with no CC why not play Mundo or Nunu NOW?