Changing Sightstone, Support items revamp.

Nekusen··3 votes·469 views

A must have item for every support. The issue being supps are the players that are bound to have the least gold and SightStone's negligible stats.

So a couple of options:

Make with supp items what they did to Jungle items, so having the option to upgrade item 3303 , item 3301 and item 3302 will give the item the ability of laying wards or distinct changes to exhaust or heal the same way jungling items change smite, limiting the use of the item to those who have one of those.

Example 1: Upgrading item 3303 to item 3098 allows to place 2 item 2044 that refill upon visiting the shop.

Example 2: You get different possible upgrades for item 3097. 1- increase the movement speed of allied champions towards the enemy champion affected by your summoner 3 . 2- increase the duration of summoner 3 . 3- summoner 3 drains mana from the target. 4- increase healed amount by summoner 7 5- summoner 7 restores a bit of mana

Example 3: This would be the less extreme change. 1- item 2049 gives 10% cooldown reduction 2- item 2049 gives 50% mana regen.

Example 4: Add more Support items that are effective and not very expensive, allowing support to reach an equivalent of "full build" and keep up with the team without being a second class citizen. These items would have to be exclusive for supps (like jg items are to jg) in order for them to not be abused by the rest of the players. Things of the sort of some kind of equivalent to regular items like item 3108 but that cost slightly less.

8 Comments

AvatarRoku221 votes

I like the idea here. It would give a nice change to an otherwise static role. Example 1 would probably be the most likely to happen if they were to do it.

Marthian1 votes

I like Ex3 the best: Give options for Sightstone. Not just for Tier 2 (Ruby), also give options for Tier 1. Not all supports get an equal benefit from the 150 HP Tier 1 Sighstone gives. (Soraka hurts herself getting it, and other squishy supports 150hp will not save them if they get caught out.)

They don't even need to be high, Tier 1 sightstone variants could include (parentheses are separate versions): (20 AP)(50% Mana regen)(200 mana)etc. and Tier 2 would simply be (50 AP)(125% Mana regen)(500 mana) The gold-generating support items are in a pretty good spot in my experience, it's that sightstone has fallen a bit slightly thanks to again only one option not everyone benefits from and Yellow Trinket upgrade starting to step on it's toes too.I would think having Sightstone recharge wards while roaming would help immensely (Possibly make it only hold 3 charges, but gives all charges when you return to base or one charge every 90~ seconds) because I've seen supports roaming for well over 5 minutes when SS runs out (and I have even taken Yellow trinket upgrade over SS due to being cheaper, slotless, and having to back less often for wards makes up for a lack of sweeper.)

Edit: Before anyone points out, even buying green wards to cover up for a lack of SS still makes it cheaper than SS. Two yellow trinkets bot lane can easily be enough for early game as well. And it is possible to have 3 wards on the map from yellow trinket.

Nekusen1 votes

i agree, options like those would certainly make it more interesting, and give the support some freedom, not only of builds, but to not just be "the team's expendable slave"

about gold items, i feel that item 3303 for example, isn't worth upgrading, the stats upgrading it gives are negligible and the item isn't cost-effective, while item 3303 ends up paying for itself.

If the sup+other use upgraded yellow, i found it to be better and more cost efficient. if you are wining, have enough gold and your team isn't buying wards, then i get SS. But normally supports are "not allowed" to kill or farm, i don't see why supports shouldn't have more combat viability.

Nekusen1 votes

added option 4

Rockomelette1 votes

I think this is could be a good idea. The main thing I agree with is combining gold income with sightstone because it kills gold to get both those items in beginning especially with no cs and if you have a defensive laning phase

Rockomelette1 votes

I think this is could be a good idea. The main thing I agree with is combining gold income with sightstone because it kills gold to get both those items in beginning especially with no cs and if you have a defensive laning phase

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