Annie and Sona

Tails Doll·Jun 30, 2015·2 votes·313 views

Can we all agree that Annie and Sona have one of the most toxic kits of all supp?

The small amount of counter play they have both in lane and in tf is toxic as fuck and should get reworked

6 Comments

Wiggle Dat ButtJun 30, 20152 votes

Thresh and Leona are 100x more Toxic than those squishy supports. Wow they can make a play every 5 minutes IF, AND THATS A BIG IF, your team stacks on each other like idiots. Leona and Thresh can literally take every single champions full combo at once and are unkillable, have unlimited CC, unlimited saves, and they haven't even bought an item yet.

Oh ya don't forget about thresh getting a Frozen Heart WORTH OF ARMOR every 10 minutes for sitting in lane

Tails DollJun 30, 20152 votes

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Thresh and Leona are 100x more Toxic than those squishy supports. Wow they can make a play every 5 minutes IF, AND THATS A BIG IF, your team stacks on each other like idiots. Leona and Thresh can literally take every single champions full combo at once and are unkillable, have unlimited CC, unlimited saves, and they haven't even bought an item yet.

Oh ya don't forget about thresh getting a Frozen Heart WORTH OF ARMOR every 10 minutes for sitting in lane

You can atleast dodge most of their CC.

I'm not talking about OP here, am talking about toxic. And annie and sona have clsoe to 0 counter play to their spells.

Annie stun goes off instanly and is AOE, plus all her poke is point and click.

Sona has a spamnable shield and heal, her poke cant be out played (all she has to do is press q she doesnt even have to point and click) and her stun also goes off instanly.

There is a reason why Sona and Annie become FoTM almost everytime there is a power shift in the meta that allows them to be more viable.

Thresh and Leo have risk to their kits and most of their combos are tied to skills shots with either wind up time or cast time.

SnugglePuggle94Jul 4, 20151 votes

Sona's shield is crap, it's the worst out of everyone in the game. Sure they are hard to dodge skill shots and stuns but if you have any smart sense you wouldn't be in range for them to flash stun you anyway unless your about to go all in with another team member or they are really low health.

Wiggle Dat ButtJun 30, 20152 votes

You have point and click confused. A point and click is something that cannot miss once clicked on target. The only point and click is Annie's Q. With sub-senior citizen reflexes, anyone can dodge Sona or Annie's flash ult. Maybe you should start doing some quickness, awareness, or thinking exercises to help you dodge SKILL SHOTS.

BharhashJul 1, 20152 votes

With sub-senior citizen reflexes, anyone can dodge Sona or Annie's flash ult.

Oh yeah. Sooooo easy to dodge a flash-AoE stun. And who can't avoid a wide-beam blast, especially if she flashes too.

Just get good. That's the answer.

Tails DollJul 4, 20151 votes

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You have point and click confused. A point and click is something that cannot miss once clicked on target. The only point and click is Annie's Q. With sub-senior citizen reflexes, anyone can dodge Sona or Annie's flash ult. Maybe you should start doing some quickness, awareness, or thinking exercises to help you dodge SKILL SHOTS.

Annie W is insta stun aoe with 0 warning it's going to happen. Only down side is how hard it is to hit due to range, but when you are melee that doesnt matter.

Her Tibbers it's also insta stun aoe, the only way to dodge it is to be a wizard and flash before she even cast it, that's not even considering flash tibbers, where you really have no way to counter play it no matter how ridiculous fast you are.

Sona's Q cant be dodge if you are in range and if she presses Q, no matter how good your reflex are. Sona's R it's the same as Annie's R, you either flash it before she cast it or you are dead.

At least leo's ult tells you where is going to hit and has about .25 seg or something like that before it actually hits, meaning you can actually do something if you are fast enough-

EDIT: Also, I'm guessing all the pros that cant dodge tibbers have sub senior reflex. RIght? RIght?