Can we make it so Ezreal isn't completely useless late game?

Cloud273·Aug 29, 2018·1 votes·2,123 views

I'm aware some champions are supposed to fall off, but Ezreal has a problem no other adc has (actually you could argue Vayne has this problem too, but unlike Ezreal Vayne has stealth to sneak past the front line and she actually has a way to get rid of tanks so it's not as big of an issue for her). Ezreal lacks a way to threaten the backline. All of his abilities can be blocked by a tank or rendered completely useless by certain abilities (Yasuo windwall, Braum shield). You literally just block his abilities for your squishies and there's NOTHING he can do about it (they're also super easy to dodge).

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HotarµAug 29, 20182 votes

He's getting a full VGU. The reason he's too difficult to balance at the moment is because he almost single-handedly breaks every on hit item or rune he comes into contact with.

It sucks because he is pretty fun to play, but even I admit it's not fair that Kleptomancy, Manamune, and much more are almost entirely held back by Ezreal alone.

Cloud273Aug 29, 20181 votes

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He's getting a full VGU. The reason he's too difficult to balance at the moment is because he almost single-handedly breaks every on hit item or rune he comes into contact with.

It sucks because he is pretty fun to play, but even I admit it's not fair that Kleptomancy, Manamune, and much more are almost entirely held back by Ezreal alone.

I don't think using on hit effect should go away entirely. It's something unique to Ezreal that makes him fun to play. They could reduce the effectiveness of the on hit effects though (make them only half effective for instance). You also have to remember that Ezreal actually needs to land a skillshot to "abuse" said items, so there is some counterplay to it. I don't think this is nearly as much of an issue as people make it out to be, but if you guys really hate iceborne Ezreal that much, maybe you should make him less squishy and reduce his mana costs (or improve his waveclear somehow). Then he wouldn't be forced to build armor and mana every game to be relevant. Let's also not forget that Ezreal can't use crit nearly as well as other adc's don't. Heck, I think he's the only adc in the game who doesn't build it. He truly is the healthiest adc in the game. His damage is often lacking due to the lack of crit in his build (or because his skillshots were blocked or dodged).

HotarµAug 29, 20182 votes

I play Ezreal. I don't mind when he's meta because I know how to fight him. Yes, I know Ezreal has to hit his ability to abuse items. However, that becomes less and less of a problem when in the hands of a good player. So no, that's not really a good point as to why he should be buffed.

However, that doesn't change the fact that he is definitely not healthy for the game in his current state.

He breaks items he comes into contact with and zones people out of farm too heavily. item 3078 item 3025 item 3042 , Runeglaive, Kleptomancy (and much more) have all been altered in some way solely because of Ezreal. Especially considering he can completely escape Blitzcrank Nautilus Pyke Thresh (and much more) even after he gets hit by the ability. Ezreal shouldn't be allowed to be strong in his current state. Having on-hit effects on a very low cooldown, very reliable, very high damage, very low mana cost ranged ability is far from healthy.

Cloud273Aug 29, 20181 votes

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I play Ezreal. I don't mind when he's meta because I know how to fight him. Yes, I know Ezreal has to hit his ability to abuse items. However, that becomes less and less of a problem when in the hands of a good player. So no, that's not really a good point as to why he should be buffed.

However, that doesn't change the fact that he is definitely not healthy for the game in his current state.

He breaks items he comes into contact with and zones people out of farm too heavily. , Runeglaive, Kleptomancy (and much more) have all been altered in some way solely because of Ezreal. Especially considering he can completely escape (and much more) even after he gets hit by the ability. Ezreal shouldn't be allowed to be strong in his current state. Having on-hit effects on a very low cooldown, very reliable, very high damage, very low mana cost ranged ability is far from healthy.

Actually that is the reason why he should be buffed. With other adc's all you do is buy crit and auto and you're guaranteed to do tons of damage. Ezreal is the only adc in this game who doesn't do this.

HotarµAug 29, 20181 votes

Kalista stacking E Corki mixed damage AA's with heavy caster influences Sivir great teamfighting, goes great with any kind of AD MissFortune power lies heavily in ult, especially for teamfights

Not all ADCs just "build crit and auto". Even if they did, that's not a valid reason for one of the most potentially broken ADCs to be brought back to power.

Cloud273Aug 29, 20181 votes

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stacking E mixed damage AA's with heavy caster influences great teamfighting, goes great with any kind of AD power lies heavily in ult, especially for teamfights

Not all ADCs just "build crit and auto". Even if they did, that's not a valid reason for one of the most potentially broken ADCs to be brought back to power.

Yea they do. Literally all of those adc's incorporate at least 1 crit item in their builds and last time I checked they all use auto attacks for damage.

Beatrice fallsAug 29, 20181 votes

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He's getting a full VGU. The reason he's too difficult to balance at the moment is because he almost single-handedly breaks every on hit item or rune he comes into contact with.

It sucks because he is pretty fun to play, but even I admit it's not fair that Kleptomancy, Manamune, and much more are almost entirely held back by Ezreal alone.

Not a full VGU, a VU only and a rework on his W

PsyrixAug 29, 20181 votes

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He's getting a full VGU. The reason he's too difficult to balance at the moment is because he almost single-handedly breaks every on hit item or rune he comes into contact with.

It sucks because he is pretty fun to play, but even I admit it's not fair that Kleptomancy, Manamune, and much more are almost entirely held back by Ezreal alone.

he's not getting a full vgu.. barely even a mini VGU tbh.. it's really just an update to his model and a change to W.. there wasn't any discussion about updating his q.. if anything it'll likely be damage changes

InfernapeAug 29, 20181 votes

Tbh if you hit late game on Ez, just sell your items for crit. Crit heavily outscales Ezreal's kit.

Warlord RhinarkAug 29, 20181 votes

I thought Ezreal was all about the late game?

InfernapeAug 29, 20181 votes

Mid game. His build comes scales into mid game then falls off late game as crit carries take over

KlydeFrogAug 29, 20181 votes

Because your not building him the strong way. Mura iceborn static cdr boots ludens. And i like to take meteor as his passive. Boom you one shot people off 1 ewq