As Expected, Morde does indeed get outscaled when going trinity force bruiser

Mortekaiser··2 votes·746 views

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1931179414/206434120?tab=overview

jinx fed early kills to the morde/thresh botlane, so im already telling myself in my head that its over, right?

well, turns out players in my bracket tend to actually not feed (unless they're intentionally doing it), so we played a bit safer, vi went sated devourer attack speed splitpush to buy time for team to scale, and lo and behold, we scaled much harder, and here's the graph showing how we scaled into lategame

http://i.imgur.com/14FAMry.png

stop building him the shitty path and just do AP bruiser already. stop pretending you're going to be tanky enough to survive a bunch of shit, when you're not. and if you end up actually getting tanky, chances are you're going to get outscaled very fast.

ap itemization is broken to make you beefy enough to survive pretty much any combo, so you can kill the tank(s) faster. stop pretending you're getting squishies with any build. it won't happen if they have a brain cell and can kite you

jinx/sona is pretty much the worst botlane to play against morde/thresh, and they still outscaled, and violently so

12 Comments

Decrit2 votes

I have never liked trinity on Morde, maybe just the stats are fine but the proc is nothing special to me.

Iceborn Gauntlet isn' t better? Even if it has a whole lot of wasted mana, gives more itresting stats like Armor, that he will need to stack somehow. However the 180% AP scaling on Q is too much strong to be ignored, and is the same since rank 1

Mortekaiser1 votes

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I have never liked trinity on Morde, maybe just the stats are fine but the proc is nothing special to me.

Iceborn Gauntlet isn' t better? Even if it has a whole lot of wasted mana, gives more itresting stats like Armor, that he will need to stack somehow. However the 180% AP scaling on Q is too much strong to be ignored, and is the same since rank 1

gunblade is probably the best rush right now imo. all of the stats are stats he loves, and the slow on the active can definitely replace the triforce movement modifications

and AP itemization is too strong to ignore, ideally you want the build gunblade/rylais/sorcs/void/rabadons and a 6th situational item, probably zhonyas

Dr Poro1 votes

Don't forget that TF gives passive MS bonus and an extra MS bonus on hit. It kinda outclasses the slow.

Mortekaiser1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Poro,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aBoxpBGE,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2015-08-26T09:32:31.086+0000)

Don't forget that TF gives passive MS bonus and an extra MS bonus on hit. It kinda outclasses the slow.

not really

trinity force provides a bunch of mediocre stats for morde in botlane, and typically morde is maxing W in that lane, so the spellvamp + slow will really help him in lane more than the stats from trinity

Decrit1 votes

But because of furor passive. you can get that on boots too.

Big Lincoln2 votes

b-but

muh triple shield item 3072 item 3053

item 3070 Mordekaiser item 3070

Dr Poro1 votes

item 3401 item 3190 item 3156 SHIELDS!!!

Mortekaiser1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Poro,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aBoxpBGE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-08-26T09:31:23.883+0000)

item 3401 item 3190 item 3156 SHIELDS!!!

daily reminder that support mordekaiser has the lowest winrate out of all supports

if only friend, if only

Big Lincoln1 votes

Mordekaiser Lulu Janna Karma Morgana

m o r e s h i e l d s

Mortekaiser1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aBoxpBGE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-26T09:28:43.854+0000)

b-but

muh triple shield item 3072 item 3053

item 3070 Mordekaiser item 3070

i dont think morde can really afford to attempt to invest in bloodthirster, even though it can be a cool item

steraks is kind of hit and miss, but in my experience isn't really worth the investment over just a good old rylais

Big Lincoln1 votes

i haven't failed with it yet tbh

not even sure what you'd build on AP Mord right now, the build that comes to mind would be, like

item 3116 item 3151 item 3100 item 3065 item 3157 item 3020

maybe you could do item 3089 item 3116 item 3135 item 3157 item 3065 item 3285 but that's a lot squishier unless you nab a tank/dragon ghost

Lynxonyx2 votes

I don't understand why you'd want Trinity, since it has mana... just seems like a waste. It's actually in the 'recommended' items for him now too...

This rework has been so misguided.

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