Did Riot literally just hide positional MMR from us and not actually change anything?

Yenn··2 votes·1,328 views

Has anyone else noticed this?

My mid lane had higher MMR than my jungle before positional LP was hidden, and now I'm gaining significantly less LP for wins as jungle than I am for wins as mid, which suggests that it's still using positional MMR.

What the fuck was the point of this?

8 Comments

Quepha4 votes

Yes, that’s exactly what Riot said they did. Positional matchmakinng still exists to make for fairer matches. Positional ranks are gone.

I don’t know if off roles affect your rank less or more than before.

usul12022 votes

Far, far more. It's not splash, it's now using the same normalized mmr equation. Just different mmrs for different ranks so you don't climb cheaply by role swapping.

Illabethe1 votes

Do you ever read other threads.

Positional Matchmaking is gone.

HOWEVER: They did Average out your MMR, and apply it to your entire account.

If you had 2 Bronze I ranks and 3 Silver II ranks, you will rank as a Silver II, but have the MMR closer to a BI.

Yenn1 votes

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Do you ever read other threads.

Positional Matchmaking is gone.

HOWEVER: They did Average out your MMR, and apply it to your entire account.

If you had 2 Bronze I ranks and 3 Silver II ranks, you will rank as a Silver II, but have the MMR closer to a BI.

Except that's not what's happening.

My wins when I play mid are worth 21 LP. My wins when I play jungle are worth 16 LP. If MMR were averaged and consolidated into a single value, my LP gains and losses should be roughly the same regardless of which role I'm playing.

Iota Theta1 votes

Positional Matchmaking is gone.

Did you read the announcement? Matchmaking stayed, because it was successful in giving people more accurate matchups. The individual, visible ranks are gone

Illabethe1 votes

I am prime example #1 of what is happening, thank you very much.

I'm one of the only people who is gaining 15 LP per game with a 52% overall, and 65-70% in 3 roles. In the last 40 games as 52%+ I have went from 9 LP to 15 LP a win. And it is no matter what role I play, or if I play Fill.

So no. It's not placing based on individual roles MMR, nor are you getting varying LP based on what role you are playing.

It's the same as Season 3-8.

usul12021 votes

The fact that wins and losses in your off roles majorly affect your lp should very easily answer this thread...

Dieu Mart1 votes

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