Can we talk about Wukong and how his burst is almost unavoidable and more than it should be dealing?

awdaf·Jan 31, 2017·13 votes·1,573 views

I don't know if it's just me, but Wukong has been overlooked a bit and does quite a bit more damage than I think people like for him to do. He goes invisible, Es toward you, auto attacks, cancels auto animation with Q, and this Procs thunderlords, at this point, if you're a mid lane or adc, or half of the squishy junglers, you're down to about 20-35% health, and then he ults, and you pretty much die. Can we lower his base damage on a couple things so theres at least a bit of outplay on him?

15 Comments

venomous frostJan 31, 20176 votes

it's just you

DunkinNoobsJan 31, 20176 votes

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ChargeItDownMidJan 31, 20176 votes

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Raven RedeemedJan 31, 20171 votes

He's not saying Wu is the worst offender, just that he is flying under the radar (and has unavoidable burst). Renekton has a pretty slow engange/combo (and a smaller team fight impact) and J4's full combo can be side stepped with relative ease. Of course, Hecarim is just strong whenever he is strong.

ShadòwJan 31, 20175 votes

he should get less burst while making his kit focus more around juking.

his whole kit should focus more on being able to outplay your enemy with W and juking while killing his opponents.

rn it's just E Q Ult and enemy 100-0 dead.

i would suggest to lower his CDs and make his W clone have the same animation as if you would just stop walking (as you can tell if that's the case or if he used his W atm.) and maybe add a Slow to the W Clone while lowering his other Base Damages.

TequilaZombieJan 31, 20171 votes

If we were to lower his damage, he'd need bigger compensations than a CD reduction+Slow on his W. Possibly a really big reduction in both CD and Mana on his W so he can use it more frequently, as well as an increase in it's AoE for the damage. Maybe even an AD scaling on it might be in line, as well as a possible increase on it's stealth timing.

Right now, all he has is his burst, you take that away he'd need some big compensations.

Asayake 5150glowJan 31, 20171 votes

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he should get less burst while making his kit focus more around juking.

his whole kit should focus more on being able to outplay your enemy with W and juking while killing his opponents.

rn it's just E Q Ult and enemy 100-0 dead.

i would suggest to lower his CDs and make his W clone have the same animation as if you would just stop walking (as you can tell if that's the case or if he used his W atm.) and maybe add a Slow to the W Clone while lowering his other Base Damages.

It's at least E+auto+Q+R.

Don't lower his CD's, that's what they did to assassins and look what happened. He'd turn into Tankgar, except that 'he's supposed to be a tank', when he's doing the exact same thing as Tankgar.

It'd also just give him smaller windows of weakness. You need high cooldowns for juking to be a thing, else he'd just spam. How about cooldowns refresh twice as fast when undetected? Aka no shimmer, and invisible.

ShadòwJan 31, 20171 votes

well he is supposed to build more or less tanky anyway, and by lowering his base stats he won't be able to go full tank if he wants to deal damage.

Asayake 5150glowJan 31, 20172 votes

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well he is supposed to build more or less tanky anyway, and by lowering his base stats he won't be able to go full tank if he wants to deal damage.

Well he can't oneshot without going full Lethality, and while I'd say that's a Lethality problem, as it just got buffed, truth is he was doing it before the buffs.

ScruberzJan 31, 20174 votes

Naw

Maple CrusaderJan 31, 20174 votes

I'd like his kit to get a look-over.

Blades in ExileJan 31, 20172 votes

It might be because his Q lowers Armor on hit as well as his ult if you build Black Cleaver on him, He can reduce your armor quite a bit before Armor pen so that could be the cause.

XenosSJan 31, 20172 votes

The issue is that wukong is already weak compared to others actual meta top laner and his burst is the only thing he has.

option paralysisJan 31, 20171 votes

His burst is big yeah, but like you said, he literally has to use everything W - E - AA - Q - R. If you're alone, ofc you're gonna die if you don't have any armor or are immobile, that's what Wukong does. But it takes at least 2 items for him to do that and these days he can rarely win a top lane match up. I have over 1k games on him and I didn't play him for a long time now because top lane right now is the worst it can be for Wukong. He just can't do anything vs. darius/maokai/poppy/fiora/nautilus. Even if by some magic you win lane, all those champs are gonna build tank anyway and will be more useful than you in teamfights.