"hit something, and hit it HARD"
Well said. Exhaust does pretty much everything short of reduce true damage, I don't think there's anything wrong with hitting something.
Personally, I think exhaust should be the defensive option compared to ignite, I'd want the resistance shred portion of it nerfed if not entirely removed. The AS, damage, and MS debuffs alone are quite sufficient.
Hexs Fortune13 votesAll this complaining about exhaust, its been like this for ages
Rock MD26 votes[{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5pnRNsT,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-02-14T00:12:10.170+0000)
All this complaining about exhaust, its been like this for ages
Well yes that's what happens when all of the other options get nerfed, such as Ghost, Teleport, and nobody is capable of running ignite anyways unless they're cheesy toplaners or assassin mids.
CudyDarkyz4 votesAs a mage player who only plays with flash/ignite. I hate you >:c
Rock MD10 votesAs a mage player who only plays with flash/ignite. I hate you >:c
I mean I play a lot of Ahri and LB so I take ignite often but why gimp myself with the wrong summoners for the wrong champs?
CudyDarkyz2 votesBecause taking ignite on Taliyah/Lux/Malz makes you a man showing i'm not scared of you enemy laner and your baby barrier spell and your safety net teleport you gotta be a manly man man.
Basically i just like using it over all other spells.
Rock MD4 votesBecause taking ignite on Taliyah/Lux/Malz makes you a man showing i'm not scared of you enemy laner and your baby barrier spell and your safety net teleport you gotta be a manly man man.
Basically i just like using it over all other spells.
Uh...
Barrier is kinda shit. So is Malz. Get yourself an Exhaust and be a god-tier midlaner™ instantly.
MontethePython21 votesClaims to be manly: Plays Lux
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f2/f224118ee37e429631adc2e9c1862fe54bc118965dc69de7dadb20afd919b621.jpg
CudyDarkyz2 votesHey that is only because Taliyah got nerfed cuz her skillshots did to much damage. "Oh i guess i'l just play a champ that is fair with skillshots, Oh man landing 1 q is so hard i see why i get a 1500 damage combo from it"
So i just wanted something easy to play while also being salty. Also i only played Taliyah and my friends was like PLAY LUX then bought me the ult skin ;~;. Least i'm more manly then other Luxs with there barrier and heal AND i run 100% AP runes with double edge sword AND first buy deathcap ludens. "sometimes"
Melledoneus11 votesReal men play Karthus, pantyhose wielder.
MontethePython1 votesWukong has more chest hair than udyr and gangplank combined and is basically goku. Manliest champion confirmed, alongside Mantheon. Karthus is pretty manly though, in that japanese kamikaze honor ballsy sort of way.
Melledoneus1 votesNobody plays Wukong mid because Wukong is the hairiest pansy out there.
Karthus is metal as shit.
Anidan2 votesIs this because he lives fast, dies hard, leaves a short-lived post-mortem impression and then he's gone until the next spark of a memory brings him back from beyond the grave?
UkeNeverSeme1 votesWukong is a direct depiction of the chinese character of legend (Sun Wukong) that Son Goku is based on. So... Not necessarily inspired by dragonball no..
MontethePython1 votesYes everyone knows that, however both goku and lol wukong are based on the chinese legend sun wukong, and in many regions they share the same voice actor as the regions voice actor for goku in dbz on purpose, they have the same voice actors in spanish and japanese and basically discount goku quotes in english, but yes, everyone knows this, you're not saying anything new, you're not contributing, and you're not saying anything groundbreaking. He's basically the same or a very similar character at a base value to goku, and that's what i said, not that he was inspired by dragonball. Atleast you tried.
13900 Essence8 votesReal men play gangplank.
#Without Exhaust
Melledoneus2 votesReal men play Aatrox.
...yeah. I don't need to go further with this one.
13900 Essence6 votesReal masochists*
50000000000000003 votesThat's kinda redundant. If we're talking about league players, we know they're masochists already.
13900 Essence1 votesgotem
Swarovsko5 votesLMAIOOOOO THIS GUY MADE MY DAY WHAT TYHE FUCK IS HE SAYING I LOVE BOYS WHO ARE COSTANTLY TRYING TO SHOW THEIR MASCULINITY THEY ARE SO RIDICULOUS
CudyDarkyz4 voteshttps://youtu.be/X16G2hsVI9w?t=50s
See diz is how you be a manly man man.
KoggyStyle1 votesand when was cleanse nerfed? its hardly ever taken but its fkin broken.
Rock MD2 votes[{quoted}](name=Snaggle Tooth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5pnRNsT,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2017-02-14T02:06:30.424+0000)
and when was cleanse nerfed? its hardly ever taken but its fkin broken.
Cleanse was not nerfed and is not really broken. It also requires you to time it properly, which is why Barrier is ass right now. On top of that it is so situational.
I will see Cleanse literally every game I play TF and it's good for that but outside of some significant hard CC all in you will always opt for Exhaust or Ghost (keep in mind it's pretty weak right now but if you need to run you need to run).
Verxint1 votesIt's also what happens when kill times condense down to 4 seconds meaning if someone exhausts you as a melee you get negated for almost the whole duration of a fight.
it used to be you might be able to survive and reposition but now you'll be taken so low with how much damage is flying around that you basically can't impact the fight.
ModCaptainMårvelous4 votesExhaust has been complained about for ages though?
Sett up 4my gank8 votesit's ridiculous cooldown should be made longer as well. 179 seconds means it's very hard to play around it. If you go in, get exhausted and die "good chance you will since attack speed slow, damage debuff, on top of movementt speed slow and negative mr/armor" Then you have to wait the death timer, run back and find an opening again within 3 minutes, the chances are the first minute or so are gone by the time you are getting out of the base.
Sugar Momma4 votesThe base CD should be the same as Heal, which is 240 seconds (currently it is the same as Ignite, which is 210).
ChaddyFantome6 votesI have been saying Exhaust is busted since Season 4, but back then people would insult and make fun of me and call me a scrub. Glad to see people are catching on finally cuz I've been abusing that shit both Mid and botlane since season 4.
Toplaners are starting to run it now just because it means automatically winning any 1v1.
Awoof3 votesI have been saying Exhaust is busted since Season 4, but back then people would insult and make fun of me and call me a scrub. Glad to see people are catching on finally cuz I've been abusing that shit both Mid and botlane sine season 4.
You know, regardless of exhaust's state, three years is probably not "catching on" but it being actually true after changes upon changes in the game.
ChaddyFantome2 votesYou know, regardless of exhaust's state, three years is probably not "catching on" but it being actually true after changes upon changes in the game.
Like what? the damage creep? Doesn't make sense. The application of it being used is the same as the application of my use of it back in season 4. The damage increase across the board wouldn't be enough to make Exhaust itself OP. More popular perhaps, but not OP.
What makes Exhaust stupid is that it literally makes someone useless at the press of a button and thus likely result sin their imminent death.
Zed Midlane? Imma go exhaust on 
and then he literally can't kill me. If he tries I 
him and he does 0 damage and probably dies trying. Then i get
and I have effectively invalidated his existence.
Botlane ADC? Imma just go Exhaust and now i can 1v1 anyone who tries to fight me.
There is very little counterplay to Exhaust besides hope you can run away fast enough...despite the thing putting a Nasus W on you.
I'm a bias support Player, so i don't wanna see it go. Helps me stop those pesky Riven's that try to box box my team for a quadra every game, but at the same time, i can acknowledge how pretty BS it is.
Idk what needs to be done, but something definitely should be.
GayFluffyUnicorn2 votesI've been running it for about 2 years in midlane and sometimes toplane. Especially at diamond i mostly get flamed why i don't take TP or ghost in mid/top. Even apart from laning phase it is very useful when you play against shit like twitch critting your entire team for 2k dmg per second. Last game on my smurf i ran into a three exhaust enemy team xD Though it didn't stop me at this point.
Papa Andrei4 votesExhaust is good due to the meta and damage creep.
Bârd5 votesYes, but he isn't reccomending anything that would cause it to stop countering assassins.
If anything, it would discourage assassins from running it as a way to stop their victims from fighting back.
Papa Andrei2 votesYe, i feel like the ms and armor/mr shred should be reduced or taken away.
DunkinNoobs3 votesI wish they'd just remove it. It's a crutch that doesn't help the game.
WoonStruck4 votesYou mean like every other summoner?
DunkinNoobs3 votesHell yeah.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesI bet without exhaust some champs winrates would go through the roof.
DunkinNoobs4 votesI bet without exhaust some champs winrates would go through the roof.
Sounds fantastic. Then we can nerf the champion fairly instead of balancing them around exhaust.
ModCaptainMårvelous2 votesJust remove the armor/mr shred or the damage reduction. The fact that it's something worth taking because it's the most powerful dueling summoner in the game is absolute bullshit.
Remove the resistance shred and make it anti-assassin Remove the damage reducing and make it a dueling spell.
Just do something about it.
NineTailedMystic8 votesRemoving the Damage Reduction would absolutely kill the Summoner. No one takes it for the shred, slow, or AS slow, they're just cherries on the cake.
ModCaptainMårvelous2 votesNaw, it would just push it more to an assassin-tool or a dueling tool. (Why take ignite when I can take exhaust and shred off huge amounts of armor and MR)
But my point is that it's an anti-assassin tool as well as a dueling tool. It has to be one or the other.
NineTailedMystic2 votesSo what would Supports take if they removed the DR? Ignite? The timeline where mids take Exhaust and Supports take Ignite?
ModCaptainMårvelous2 votesIgnite is occasionally picked by supports actually. Teleport could be good in certain situations. Ghost is pretty good sometimes. Heal if your ADC blows his.
Options -are- there.
MissingKayo2 votesWhen some of the best players in the world take Exhaust over Ignite on a midlane assassin, you know something's wrong.
Verdade2 votesThat's because ignite's damage scales inversely with MMR
ChaddyFantome2 votesThat's because ignite's damage scales inversely with MMR
Actually I'd imagine its because ADC's are capable of rekking Assassins now in if they get any items 1v1 so Exhaust Allows them to neutralize them to make it easier for the assassin to do their job unscathed.
OyddAWqJ5r1 votesWhat I think should happen:
TheWoollyMammoth1 votesPerhaps Exhaust is to strong at the moment, but If you nerf it, you are indirectly buffing any diving assassin that wants your carry. Perhaps it would be better to buff other options, and not remove one of the best ways to stop everyone from instagibbing squishies.
This being said, something needs to be done, supports are supposed to be the main audience of exhaust (sometimes the bot adc). Not Top and mid laners. (quinn)
MissingKayo2 votesThen rebalance the assassin instead of relying on this cancerous overloaded shit.
