Just FYI, "Playing Safe and farming" does not mean you're going even in lane.

Mizaya··5 votes·665 views

I say this specifically about mid lane. Why? Who wins lane is determined by more than just statistics. Mid lane has always been regarded as one of the most impactful roles in the game. This is due to the laner's ability to roam early game and still get enough gold to scale well throughout the mid to late game.

I have always believed that one of the most important parts of carrying a game is to be pressuring the enemy in the early game. Having pressure will cause the other lanes to play more passively. It will give your jungler more control. This is what can really help push an advantage early game.

Now, let's get back to mid. Let's say you're Zed and you're winning by just a bit in CS. The enemy mid laner, someone like Syndra/Lux/Xerath, is playing passive and mostly just farming and letting you push in. So, naturally, you roam bot, and whether or not you get a kill, you're likely to give your bot lane the upper hand in the 2v2. You could invade with your jungler and force their jungler out, causing him to lose farm and XP. Essentially, having the pressure advantage in the mid lane allows you to help your teammates at a minimal cost.

Now, at 20 minutes, even if you are even in farm, even if you aren't that fed from getting kills in other lanes, your team is much more likely to be ahead because of the pressure advantage you've exerted.

So, it's not really reasonable to blame your team if you're mid and got pushed in repeatedly while the enemy mid laner was putting pressure on the rest of your team. It's not always your fault; some matchups just work that way, such as many immobile mages into Zed. But the mid lane matchup goes farther beyond just stats. So playing safe is only advisable when you'd be at risk of being killed otherwise or you scale significantly harder into the late game, which really doesn't happen in that many cases.

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Definitely Bait4 votes

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Will all out scale or provide more advantages to their team than zed late game. As long as your properly warding and the other 2 lanes are competent enough to not give any major advantage on the roams just being safe and csing will make you stronger than Zed late game. The problem is this relies on bot / top to be map aware and playing well enough to not give too big of a advantage on the roams. (Aka ward and stop pushing hard into the enemy lane when you can't see the zed on the map). If you don't match the roam the lane should be pushed into their tower (Forces the jungler to fill or gives a large amount of free tower damage)

At the same time keeping mid pushed into the other tower will constantly attract jungle / support / team ganks and give the rest of the map free reign to do whatever they want while at the same time giving you plenty of openings to roam. As long as your properly warding and ready to escape ganks they'll just waste time and lose more than they gain. Your forcing them to take a disadvantage with the illusion of it being a advantage and opening more opportunities for self. It's risky though and makes you free gold if you screw up.

It's situational. Playing safe and farming in general is the best way to stay even or keep a lead excluding external stupidity (Teammates not properly warding and ignoring their map making roams free and easy). Some champions just need to go even to win and aren't as reliant on getting far ahead in the laning phase to be useful or carry. Others absolutely have to get a big lead in lane or they're completely worthless (Especially if they're strong early game but fall off late). Staying aggro / pushed and roaming is the very risky approach for a slightly larger reward that is just a necessity for these types (No large lead means they're worthless) .

Nyhver4 votes

Zed's late game is underrated and can be potentially amazing

it depends on teams and the skill/consistency of the Zed player though, getting hit on squishy assassins often leads to death

Papa Slothy1 votes

no matter what it's weak

he has damage but the whole point is that he has no control of situations with multiple targets

Jbels2 votes

I mean, it does mean you're not feeding, soooo...

Orangesilk1 votes

I can carry a midlaner who goes 0/0/0 with subpar farm, whatever.

I can't carry a guy who's 0/7/0 from trying to make "The plays" across all lanes, and who has fed each laner a couple kills.

Jbels1 votes

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I can carry a midlaner who goes 0/0/0 with subpar farm, whatever.

I can't carry a guy who's 0/7/0 from trying to make "The plays" across all lanes, and who has fed each laner a couple kills.

Exactly, this thread doesn't seem to realize that their mid laner COULD be feeding, but isn't by playing this way

Mizaya1 votes

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Exactly, this thread doesn't seem to realize that their mid laner COULD be feeding, but isn't by playing this way

It's not about what COULD happen, it's about what SHOULD happen. A good outcome does not always mean a good decision was made, and likewise a bad outcome doesn't always mean bad decisions were made to start the chain of events, but possibly just small errors and mechanical mistakes.

In this example, you refer to the hypothetical 0/7 player as "trying to make The Plays", which is the wrong mindset to begin with, because winning games has never been about making big plays but about consistently making the right decisions.

My point, summed up, is simply that a mid laner staying even in gold with the enemy mid laner but putting out significantly less pressure should theoretically have a less positive impact on the game than his enemy counterpart. I tend to think of the game in terms of high-level play, but this should be able to be applied at all levels of play if you have some idea of what you're doing as a mid laner.

Shahamut1 votes

My veigar vs yasuo... I farm q, ward, and ping missing a lot. Of course, at my current elo, I also get lots of chances to outplay under turret. Because that's what yasuo should do right? :-P

Nyhver1 votes

u rite

Trídent1 votes

but then i spam

Veigar Veigar Veigar Veigar Veigar

:)

Mizaya1 votes

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but then i spam

Veigar Veigar Veigar Veigar Veigar

:)

Almost forgot he existed LOL

Trídent3 votes

:<

For that you will SUFFFERRR!

Veigar trips over a step trying to get to Yoona cuz 2 short

mogonk1 votes

Let's see if I can rewrite this post in one sentence.

"If you playin mid you best roam bitch"

There I did it.

Papa Slothy1 votes

I say play safe and farm just so the lead they have given to the enemy might eventually wear off or prevent it from becoming an even bigger lead

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