How much do lategame ADC crits actually do?

Mizaya·8/16/2017, 5:08:21 PM·8 votes·896 views

I want to actually calculate the damage of a lategame ADC crit. So what's a good build? item 3031 item 3094 item 3087 item 3033 item 3072 item 3006 item 2140

This gives +230 AD. Your average late game ADC gets around 98 ish base AD, so that's about 328 AD in total. Runes usually add another 8 AD, totaling to 336. This means crits hit for 840 raw damage.

As for picking a target, I'll just use Tristana. She has about 82 armor with runes, 73 base and 9 bonus. With 42% total bonus armor pen and 7% base armor pen, the mitigated armor is roughly 68 and 5, totaling to 73. This means Tristana will take 57.8% of the damage from the crit, which is 486 damage. With these numbers, it would take just about 4 crits to kill a Tristana, and given 80% crit chance, it's very likely that only 4, possibly 5 autos are required.

But let's also add in energized bonus magic damage, which, given that Shiv crits, is 520 bonus magic damage. Trist has around 50 MR with the runes I use, meaning she takes 520 * 0.667 damage, which is 347 magic damage. With this in mind, Trist is very nearly, but not actually killed with 3 crits.

And also these numbers will be a tad bit higher as Battle Trance kicks in, but the number of crits required to kill remains the same.

Now, if we look at a more likely target that an ADC will be hitting, like an Assassin, we can look at Zed as a target. Zed doesn't always run armor runes, but more often just runs MR runes and HP/lvl. This puts his base armor at 86.4. With our 7% Armor pen, we will have a mitigated armor of roughly 80, and Zed will take 55.4% physical damage, or 466 per crit.

As for magic damage, Zed will have 90.5 with Merc treads, meaning he will take 52.5% of magic damage, and thus take 273 bonus damage from the energized crit. With Zed's 2555 health considering he has item 3071, it would take 5 crits to kill Zed. With 80% crit, we can expect that to be around 6-7 autos.

But what if Zed got tabis instead of Mercs? Well, then his armor would be 116.4, 86.4 + 30 bonus armor. With 42% Bonus armor pen and 7% base armor pen, this is mitigated to 98 armor, meaning Zed takes 50.5% physical damage, and crits will thus deal 424, but with Tabis passive it will end up being about 382.

Now, Zed will have 65.4 MR instead, meaning he will take about 60% magical damage, and thus take 314.4 damage from the energized crit. With these numbers, it should now take 6 crits to kill Zed. We can reasonable expect this to be 7-8 autos.

TL;DR: With a lategame build, as shown above, it should take an ADC 4 crits to kill an enemy ADC(Trist used as an example here), as crits do 486 post-mitigation and energized crits do an additional 347 magic damage... Against an assassin with Mercs(Zed used as an example here), it should take about 5 crits, as crits do 466 and energized crits deal an additional 273 magic damage... Against an assassin with Tabis(Zed again), it should take about 6 crits, as crits do 382 and energized crits deal an additional 314.4 magic damage. Feel free to leave any feedback, like if I made an error in calculation or anything else.

13 Comments

waiting for WoW8/16/2017, 5:16:39 PM4 votes

Everyone here knows that Crit is currently the strongest stat in the game if someone is stacking IE with zeal items.

It's so sad that Riot had to buff crit items and make them cheaper just so ADC would stop abusing lethality and assassin items.

Hyperiön8/16/2017, 5:24:04 PM4 votes

See, thats how math should work.

But you have people critting for 1k+

HeresyHorus8/16/2017, 9:04:20 PM1 votes

Dude ur build is troll build tbh, only those pussy ADCs who cant manhandle shit on their own and suck their teams dildos build it, and the worst part of it is the upgraded item 1001.

Why upgrade item 1001 when u can sell it for even more DAKKA cuz u cant have enough DAKKA.

Real and Manly ADCs build item 3147 item 3031 item 3094 item 3812 item 3087 + 1 situational ( item 3508 item 3139 item 3156 item 3153 item 3072 item 3026 item 3814 ) + item 2140 and only get item 3035 when their enemy squishies got sick form being 2 - 3 shotted in less than 1.5 sec and started to get things like item 3143 for AD and item 3110 for AP on top of thier item 3047 item 3157 .

for runes Real ADCs get lethality reds ( damn those flat Ad reds suck big time ) and attack speed quints ( or lethality quints if u feel even more manly )

for masteries u get either warlord or SRS but make sure to take all the +% damage masteries for a potential of +10% or even +13% if u add ur team expose weakness mastery.

now u can try ur maths after getting the real proper set for Real and Manly ADCs who are not afraid of running to ur face and flatten it within 2 sec.

Shablagoo8/17/2017, 2:30:03 AM1 votes

You included the 50% bonus dmg from ie?

LankPants8/17/2017, 3:43:16 AM1 votes

You can always just do a raw DPS calculation too to show how absurd crit is right now.

Level 18 Trist (98AD) (0.656baAS) (25.5%boAS) with item 3094 item 3087 item 3006 item 3031 item 3036 item 3139 item 2140 +128% AS+18AD

AD=98+70+65+50+30+18=331 AD AS=0.656(1+.255+1.28+0.35+0.3)=3.865>2.5 Crit=80%

DPS=2.5x(331x0.8x2.5+0.2x331)=1655 DPS+0.8x2.5x160+0.2x160=2007 raw damage over the first second in combat with no spells.