Whose going to stop banning Morgana with the Blitzcrank R change that destroys shields?
I'm pretty sure most people already hate Blitz. Now, not only can he pull you over a wall at any level, at 6+ he can not only take half your HP + in Q/W, he can now destroy your shield before R activates, meaning all R damage passes through.
And what's his counter? Pretty much only 
IainG1012 votes
"Oh, you grabbed me, now I can save my E for when you try to run" Qs Blitz in the face
vyoda11 votesAs an enchanter main, I’m gonna start banning 
every Ranked game now
Kazekiba2 votesGood luck with that while Ranked is disabled :P
Tahminatrix 1 votesPretty easy, even if ranked is never re-enabled, they still satisfy the conditions of banning blitz everytime they play ranked from now on.
Or they could just not play ranked even when it comes up if they don't feel like banning blitz....
Velasan6 votesI totally respect what you're saying, and since I play both champions in support it's something to think about, but no still need to ban morg if playing blitz.
The shield prevents the hook in the first place, making it so you would have to run right at them, R then hook. You can of course, but it complicates things especially against a morgana.
Of course half the time can only pick blitz when you can counter pick anyways, because if you go first and they pick a sivir morg or sivir and karma lane... ouch.
Phieldworker5 votesI mean he can’t pull until he ults so at distances he can’t pull you still.
Hot LeBlanc Yuri1 votesI mean he can’t pull until he ults so at distances he can’t pull you still.
Wtf does this mean, are you okay?
Phieldworker5 votesIt means you can black shield his pull still.
Durzaka2 votesThe real killer for Blitz against morg is her being able to react to Q and instantly shield it.
This ult charge stripping shields doesnt change this at all, because he needs to be nearly melee range to even strip shields to begin with, which means just walking up to press R and eating a lot of damage.
Mataka Tek5 votesThe WHOLE point of Malzahar's shield is to block 1 important spell / dmg amount. Now its useless because this new mechanic totally negates his shield. Meaning Blitz doesn't even have to waste an AA, knockup or Pull all he has to do is R in range.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesWait, really? Did you test that interaction?
I don't expect Blitzcrank's R to work like that, tbh. Malzahar's shield is coded as a damage reduction, isn't it? So Blitzcrank's R should just deal heavily reduced damage and then make the shield disappear (like any other spell does).
chipndip15 votes[{quoted}](name=Mataka Tek,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZwxdRZro,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-18T02:09:15.694+0000)
The WHOLE point of Malzahar's shield is to block 1 important spell / dmg amount. Now its useless because this new mechanic totally negates his shield. Meaning Blitz doesn't even have to waste an AA, knockup or Pull all he has to do is R in range.
Why is Blitz that close to Malzahar to begin with without being punished?
General Esdeath 2 votesWhy is Blitz that close to Malzahar to begin with without being punished?
FSRER4 votesAnd by that point blitz will have wasted all his shit only for malzahar to R him down
General Esdeath 6 votesAnd by that point blitz will have wasted all his shit only for malzahar to R him down
Why would Malz waste his ult on a blitz?
ChaosReyn1 votesTHIS is the real question.
Meteora7073 votesto not die for free?
General Esdeath 1 votesto not die for free?
Or just, you know, walk away. Flash away. Dodge the hook. Spawn a voidling in front of it.
Meteora7071 votesblitz R silence is long enough to prevent all of those besides "just dodge it 4head", which obviously doesn't really work out most of the time.
General Esdeath 1 votesblitz R silence is long enough to prevent all of those besides "just dodge it 4head", which obviously doesn't really work out most of the time.
Actually if you have 2 voidling stacks there's you can do it. When you summon the first it takes around 0.5 seconds for the next to spawn, then 0.5 for the last one. Dodging it works if you can pay attention to his movements, and make sure to remember that the hitbox is slightly angled towards his right side.
Meteora7071 votesyou ain't dodging a righteous glory blitz hook as malza if the blitz ain't silver mate
General Esdeath 2 votesyou ain't dodging a righteous glory blitz hook as malza if the blitz ain't silver mate
So why doesn't every challenger player pick Blitz?
Meteora7071 votesbecause getting the mid laners ultimate is worth less than saving all of your backline or even just pressing W on a fed jax as a lulu.
General Esdeath 1 votesbecause getting the mid laners ultimate is worth less than saving all of your backline or even just pressing W on a fed jax as a lulu.
But nobody can dodge the hooks :^)
Meteora7071 votesno a malzahar can't dodge a close range hook while slowed by righteous :)
General Esdeath 1 votesno a malzahar can't dodge a close range hook while slowed by righteous :)
But there's other champs in challenger. If high elo Blitzcranks never miss, why don't they all pick him? :thinking:
Meteora7071 votesyou ain't dodging a righteous glory blitz hook as malza if the blitz ain't silver mate
I think you might be dyslexic, might wanna get that checked out fam
General Esdeath 1 votesI think you might be dyslexic, might wanna get that checked out fam
That's....not how dyslexia works...and your statement implies it's based on the skill/rank of the Blitzcrank himself
Meteora7071 votesit depends on the skill of the blitzcrank in the sense that its for him to fuck up not for you to dodge, you get a blitz with righteous glory and flash in your face as malza? you ain't dodging that shit unless he misses it mate.
Deνiruchi1 votesBlitz's R also silences him, so he grabs and punches him most likely with his team around.
chipndip12 votes[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZwxdRZro,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2019-07-18T05:03:53.114+0000)
Why is this a consistent problem if you have to blow flash to do it?
General Esdeath 1 votesWhy is this a consistent problem if you have to blow flash to do it?
Ask Riot. That's why they nerfed Galio, because flash W was too consistent of a problem.
crippler381 votesFlash W is a large AOE CC that lasts long enough to burst down anyone hit by it. This on a semi global champion who is the one delivering said burst damage is probably why they did it.
Now I don't agree with the making it interruptable as well personally, but I get why they'd nerf the flash W.
Garen is adopted3 votes[{quoted}](name=Mataka Tek,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZwxdRZro,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-18T02:09:15.694+0000)
The WHOLE point of Malzahar's shield is to block 1 important spell / dmg amount. Now its useless because this new mechanic totally negates his shield. Meaning Blitz doesn't even have to waste an AA, knockup or Pull all he has to do is R in range.
yeah, imagine how cancer would be this mechanic on a bruiser tho.
crippler381 votesCouldn't he do that anyway to pop Malz shield?
Cevrad2 votesWhose going to stop banning Morgana with the Blitzcrank R change that destroys shields?
I'm pretty sure most people already hate Blitz. Now, not only can he pull you over a wall at any level, at 6+ he can not only take half your HP + in Q/W, he can now destroy your shield before R activates, meaning all R damage passes through.
And what's his counter? Pretty much only
Blitz is trash. Will still be trash after the slight buff.
GalacticDancer2 votesJust dodge his grab???
Illabethe1 votesDo you even know what this thread is about?
It's about the fact on average, the counter to a Blitz team is Morgana, yet Morgana has about a 34-40% Ban rate CONSISTENTLY.
It's not about "How do you beat Blitz?"
Also, try dodging a grab from an equal or better skilled Blitz player. Like with any actual ranked game, many skills are unavoidable when you are like skilled or they are more skilled. A Master tier Blitz will almost NEVER miss.
SovereignMammal1 votesIf they would just nerf Morgana already no one would need to ban her :)
Illabethe1 votesShe's down to a 50% Champ with a 7 delta win/loss. They don't ban her because she's OP. They ban her because she's inconvenient to the plan. Ie..... a CC bot lane, ESPECIALLY on Pull comps.
That gets her an abnormal ban rate by itself, because Black shield has no replacement (as an ally negater). If they released another champ tomorrow with a way to block CC from hitting an ally, Morg ban rate would plummet.
Support Position1 votes 
I siliece btw. 
you only give me mana for death.
banned Oh looks like hes not a problem anymore.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesyou didnt ban blitz and pyke before????????? lmao bot is so screwed over right now
Garen is adopted1 votesfun fact, HE FUCKING CAN R CAST BEFORE PUNCH, if you are late with the spelshield or he's in range.
Pika Fox1 votesI mean, ali, leona, naut, amumu support etc all do well into him.
As an adc, you have ezreal, sivir and tristana that are good into him as well.
ChaosReyn1 votesAnd as far as (slightly) off meta goes, I personally love playing Zac support into a lot of these displacement matchups in general.
Thanks for Qing me, now I can save my E to actually make it back out when I Leeroy your asses. xD
Daedric Etwahl1 votesI'm not sure how I feel about Blitzcrank's interaction with Morg's shield, but my friend and I tested out Renekton's new mechanic, and his empowered W destroys Morg shield before the stun, which, idk about you but I feel like shouldn't happen. Seems needless and stupid