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New Tank Items on the PBE

Big Lincoln··31 votes·20,048 views

Adaptive Helm https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yLGKQlMmemw/WOasRoXAjkI/AAAAAAABCxM/Mc8884jLL5UgG8u91aAHrMY7JJ_Cn2DqQCLcB/s1600/3194_Battlemage_Blocker.png ! ( ! ) ! Adaptive Helm Total Cost: X Recipe: X Sells for: x +300 Health +70 Magic Resist +100% Base Health Regeneration +10% Cooldown Reduction UNIQUE Passive: Taking magic damage from a spell or effect reduces all subsequent magic damage taken from that spell or effect by 15% for 5 seconds.

Gargoyle Stoneplate

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YrmtF1vaBEk/WOasRlHAk4I/AAAAAAABCxI/stUKcv_3q7MiijI9psH5eRZZ3xyQS-jbgCLcB/s1600/3193_Teamfight_Tunic.png ! ( ! ) ! Gargoyle Stoneplate Total Cost: X Recipe: X Sells for: x +40 Armor +40 Magic Resist UNIQUE Passive - Stone Skin: If 3+ enemy champions are nearby, grants 40 bonus Armor and Magic Resist. UNIQUE Active - Metallicize: Increases Health by 40% and increases champion size, but reduces damage dealt by 60% for 4 seconds (90 second cooldown). If Stone Skin is active, the Health increase becomes 100% instead.

I hope stoneplate's icon is permanent

discuss below, I'm very happy about this "fuck mages" item

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/04/46-pbe-update.html keep your eyes peeled for more changes today and next week

EDIT: CHANGES TO EXISTING ITEMS HITTING PBE --LOOK HERE-- https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/8g2H4vjy-midseason-durability-feedback

RIP Randuin's

209 Comments

Ralanr20 votes

Holy shit they weren't kidding about a counter to magic dps. I'm not even made that it's countering a big weakness, I love it.

I'll probably only ever get stoneplate on a support tank or as a last resort late game item. Not a fan of having my damage reduced like that (even if it is for seconds).

Sahn Uzal7 votes

Mate you know I'll be rushing Adaptive Helm on Sion whenever I see someone lock Cass lol

Ralanr7 votes

Cass, Azir, Swain, Sol, fuck all those mages now.

Sahn Uzal9 votes

I mainly just care about Cass.

God fuck cass.

Big Lincoln5 votes

this'll actually be really good against other magic damage champions too

Mundo, Rumble, Karthus, Corki maybe, heimerfucker, ziggs

quite pleased

Wet Dryman13 votes

I feel bad for Karthus, dude has probably the most counteritemization in the game and here comes another nail in the coffin ^^

JarvansWAR9 votes

He also becomes one of the most difficult champions to deal with in a team fight scenario later on in the game lol

JavelinJoe9 votes

Do not forget Anivia Rumble Zyra Karthus Ryze Singed and most importantly Teemo

Lauchmelder2 votes

Now that you mention him, Azir gets another nerf.

Spoofghoul4 votes

what about the new banshee veil with an 8 second spellshield?

or the new ga sion is probably one of the few tanks left who can make use of it as an ''offtank'' item

i am a bit concerned about his base stats though

since all the items are getting hp nerfs and sion already doesn't have much hp or base armor

Ben Sharpio5 votes

its so comforting knowing that i wont have to be melted by anivia or cass anymore

Big Lincoln12 votes

gargoyle looks like a tank or support only item, given the self-reduction to your own damage output.

it's actually a really clever change, kudos to Riot for that

TheJakeinator3 votes

Except True damage can't be reduced to enjoy unkillable Darius one shotting your entire team.

As a darius one trick, I literally can't wait

Ahristocats14 votes

darius can't oneshot with ult you're not the only darius player

but it's still going to be stupid, i hope they will make true damage reduced

TheJakeinator4 votes

If he gets his passive off he can one shot squishies with it.

Also the point of true damage is that it can't be reduced by anything, so riot isn't going to do that

Ralanr11 votes

{quoted}

If he gets his passive off he can one shot squishies with it.

That's not really a big accomplishment.

TheJakeinator1 votes

It is because his ult resets and now he can do this while be actually unkillable.

It is going to be blatantly broken

Ralanr5 votes

But it's reducing his damage, not someone reducing his damage.

TheJakeinator3 votes

It will reduce all his other damage outside his ult. Riot has already said they will never make anything that reduces true damage because that is the point of it.

underscores2226 votes

They won't allow outside effects to reduce true damage (like Garen's damage reduction affecting Darius' ult) - however, there has not been a self applied effect in the game that reduces damage before. It is totally reasonable that it will affect all forms of damage output, including true damage.

Lane Cancer1 votes

kinda is if your clicking literally one button. you dont actually think thats a common trait? Syndra Veigar Darius

Ralanr1 votes

Squishies did easily so no, not really.

Lane Cancer1 votes

English friend? Also, basic math proves you wrong. Give examples if your so sure of yourself, so I can debunk them :3

Ralanr2 votes

What ADC has only 1200 health late game? Because that's the math Rubick provided below for highest amount of true damage he was able to get off of Darius late game.

Ahristocats4 votes

No he can't, stop with this already

the maxium of damage i got with darius is 1200 in late game

there is no way an adc or any champion in the game has 1200 hp at 40 min

HateDaddy4 votes

{quoted}

If he gets his passive off he can one shot squishies with it.

Also the point of true damage is that it can't be reduced by anything, so riot isn't going to do that

If he gets his passive stacked, he's not one shorting because he has to get his passive stacked. That, by definition, is not one-shorting since he had to for 5 instances of damage to achieve that. Now, if it was stacked prior then you have a case but he still has to do the work of stacking it in the first place, so I'm not so sure I like the statement of darius' ult "one-shotting."

Ahristocats9 votes

i wonder what's going to happen because true damage cannot be reduced by anything and this item reduces your damage by 60%, but does it reduce true damage?

is riot going to make an exception for this item? because else darius will run around unkillable while still doing 1200 damage with his ult

Big Lincoln10 votes

oh yeah I didn't even think of that

Garen vs a Villain, Cho'Gath scaling HP true damage execute, Darius, CAMILLE...

that's gonna be disgusting LOL

edit: holy shit, the 100% health increase on cho'gath, basically doubles the scaling you'll get to your ult. gonna b so busted

5 Stacks GG2 votes

holy shit that and champ with % healing pop the active and heal for so much

Handy Sandy 7 votes

Helm is gonna kill DPS mages,

DragonShea2 votes

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Helm is gonna kill DPS mages,

Finally. Imma tear Teemo's tears.

HateDaddy7 votes

HOLY SHIT THEY DID THE REDUCED MAGIC DAMAGE OVERTIME ITEM

Hell yeah

Dominick Destine6 votes

These are probably for one of the RGM, not for summoner's rift.

Adaptive helm, if it's a real item, completely guts all AP champs.... we need more armor, not more MR.

Jeddy0174 votes

Actually, Riot specifically mentioned how we would be getting new tank items as a part of the tank update here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/WgNuqAK8-midseason-durability-goals-and-direction

They're coming to the Rift, but likely aren't final see how they won't come till 7.9.

Dominick Destine4 votes

{quoted}

Actually, Riot specifically mentioned how we would be getting new tank items as a part of the tank update here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/WgNuqAK8-midseason-durability-goals-and-direction

They're coming to the Rift, but likely aren't final see how they won't come till 7.9.

Do we have confirmation that these are for summoner's rift?

If so, I expect heavy changes to both because I highly doubt that these will ship as described, if at all.

1374343 votes

Uh no...we need more MR options, which has been lagging our armor options for a long time.

WoonStruck6 votes

Irelia, Amumu, Camille, Fiora, and Master Yi will likely become issues with this as well.

MasterOfMetaI4 votes

Vandiril is probably having an orgasm rn with all the Cho videos he can make off these

LankPants4 votes

RIP jungle tanks. Reduced HP on everything so Cinder is indirectly nerfed. Rand's gutted. Can't build the only item that will actually make them tanky since they actually rely on damage. No realistic option for a GA in the lategame.

These seem like super shitty changes to me.

CudyDarkyz3 votes

Taliyah Hello Darkness my old friend.

ThePikol3 votes

Adaptive Helmet will fck Singed so hard

chipndip12 votes

Didn't they say they were reducing tank stats on items? This is as much or more than what we currently got...

Jeddy0175 votes

If you're talking about the whole "Less tank stats on items & more in base stats" thing, they tried that & it didn't work out well.

You might just want to read this thread: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/WgNuqAK8-midseason-durability-goals-and-direction

Big Lincoln3 votes

they're lowering health in favor of more resists

which is evident in both items

Mordepool2 votes

{quoted}

Didn't they say they were reducing tank stats on items? This is as much or more than what we currently got...

They tried but once they nerfed the items. All the tanks just bought offensive items instead so that change got pulled.

JavelinJoe1 votes

So if I take Gargoyle Stoneplate on Alistar and ult and use the active, do I now deal another 60% reduced damage on top of the 50/60/70% or do they get added together making me deal negative reduced damage (110-130% damage reduction lol)?

Big Lincoln3 votes

You misread

It reduces the damage you deal, it's not 60% damage reduction

RexSaur1 votes

They are basically going to hard buff every tank item in the game and make 2 broken ones.

So we can play 10 tanks per league of legend match.

Ahristocats14 votes

You don't need a brain Rexsta... Rexsaur. i'll take the place of your brain

in case you didn't realise, except few abuses No more tanks are going to deal damage. DMP damage+sunfire have been gutted, there is an item reducing their damage by 60% for few seconds at the exchange of more tankiness

Combine this with maokai+zac+sejuani reworks, and you get a class that has 0 reliable damage IF NOT 0 damage as anyway squishies are getting more armor/mr.

so if they pick 5 tanks, but you pick 1 or 2 tanks+ one mage for the early game+ one hyper carry you will end up with slightly less CC, a frontline disrupting them and hyper carries killing everything

at this point you should thank me as i'm able to think for you since you can't do alone

-gH

Lane Cancer4 votes

I fucking love you for shutting people down on the regular. You give the boards hope

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