Fiora rework to balance her among her peers.

TeemoXNidalee··5 votes·495 views

Passive: %health damage is very strong. True damage is also super strong. Now when you put both together and with an AD scaling it gets extremely anti fun and overpowered. Still it's her identity, so we shouldn't remove it, just give it more counterplay. New effect: Now has a on-target cooldown of 8 seconds between procs.

Q: The cooldown reset is too strong, making this skill too spammable. It's like a kassadin's ult with no mana cost. New: Now only resets cooldown if it procs her passive.

W: When fencing, people don't stand still and say "I'm unable to be harmed now, good luck!", they quickly parry the attack then counter attack. New: Duration decreased from 0.75 seconds to 0.1 seconds. It should be a reflex thing.

E: This skill is fair, no changes here.

R: It's stupid for a "delete him now" ultimate to also have a massive AOE heal that rivals those of dedicated supports. New: No longer heals. New: If fiora pops all vitals or kills the target, they will explode dealing 10/12/14 (+1%/100AD)*number of vitals popped of their maximum health as true damage to all nearby enemies.

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OyddAWqJ5r4 votes

Is this a shitpost?

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

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Is this a shitpost?

No, it's a rework concept.

Weiner the Pooh3 votes

It's such a good thing boards have no balance control. 8 second passive cd? Q only reset on vital? It's so clear you don't play Fiora. These changes would literally gut her. Q could no longer be used to last hit or farm, or chase or anything. And .1 second? Seriously? I'm really hoping this is a troll post. It seems like it but you never know.

TeemoXNidalee3 votes

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It's such a good thing boards have no balance control. 8 second passive cd? Q only reset on vital? It's so clear you don't play Fiora. These changes would literally gut her. Q could no longer be used to last hit or farm, or chase or anything. And .1 second? Seriously? I'm really hoping this is a troll post. It seems like it but you never know.

When a champions is on Fiora's level of OPness, nerfs like this may appear harsh, but they're necessary to balance.

Passive cooldown is needed. She shouldn't be able to chase people endlessly, she gets 2 gap closers already, if the opponent manage to escape a third time they deserve it.

She can still farm with Q, but it now has a trade off.

Joxcab1 votes

Except Fiora is perfectly balanced. Your entire argument is invalid.

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

2 gap closers? She has one. And without its reset it's an 18 second cd for pretty small range. And no it's not needed, it's her main dps. Taking that away would ruin her.

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

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2 gap closers? She has one. And without its reset it's an 18 second cd for pretty small range. And no it's not needed, it's her main dps. Taking that away would ruin her.

Q on a vital to reset it

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

The range on it is pitiful and it can go behind them. Good luck procing it because that's the only way you'll get to proc a vital. With luck.

Visionova3 votes

0.1 second duration on Riposte means you basically can't play Fiora if you don't live in Korea or right on top of the servers.

If you want to curb her passive, just remove the heal from it. Fiora already has very high HP5, and has an easy time building life steal anyway.

Ralanr2 votes

I actually kinda like this, except for the ult part making my teammate explode.

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

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I actually kinda like this, except for the ult part making my teammate explode.

Something should replace her heal

InsaneKiller021 votes

The W uptime is too short. Ability spell shields (Sivir E, Nocturne W) last 1.5 secs. I'd give it something like 0.5, or remove the AS debuff.

I also love that Q change. I'll upvote, hopefully this thread grabs more attention.

nice table1 votes

so about 70% max health aoe true damage? kek

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

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so about 70% max health aoe true damage? kek

Enemies would have several seconds to avoid standing around the marked target.

nice table1 votes

it doesn't take "several seconds" to even kill a tank at this point, especially with a fiora ultimate on you.

  • the strategy against fiora is more of a clump up rather than split up.
TeemoXNidalee1 votes

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it doesn't take "several seconds" to even kill a tank at this point, especially with a fiora ultimate on you.

  • the strategy against fiora is more of a clump up rather than split up.

She has to pop all vitals for that damage, it takes at best 2 seconds which is enough to run away.

nice table1 votes

or kills the target

didn't sound like she had to pop all the vitals but i guess if she does then its okayish

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

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didn't sound like she had to pop all the vitals but i guess if she does then its okayish

Yeah I changed it so it scales with amount of vitals popped, would be pretty broken (not that Fiora isn't broken already xd) if she could ult then instakill a low hp target for massive true damage.

Joxcab1 votes

What is this retarded shitpost? She is already perfectly balanced. Stop whining.

Your suggested salty changes would literally gut her.

Rengooo1 votes

If they were to make these changes they might as well delete her whilst they are at it :/

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