Nasus' ult should scale with % of HIS HP

The Cane Master··3 votes·790 views
Nasus

His R(Fury of the Sands) deals 3 / 4 / 5% (+ 1% per 100 AP) of the target's maximum health,

So yeah, he is the only juggernaut that doesn't scale with his HP growth, which doesn't make much sense. I think his ult should scale with it instead.

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Quepha2 votes

That would make him stronger against squishies and weaker against tanks. I'm not convinced of the value of that change.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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That would make him stronger against squishies and weaker against tanks. I'm not convinced of the value of that change.

it wouldnt make him weaker against tanky targets. just stronger against squishies which is ok imo. hes not in a great spot right now.

i made this suggestion a while ago. remove his ap scaling and make the ult just deal 1% of his own max health in true damage per second. which would add up to 15% tops.

i think they could also replace his lifesteal passive by % missing health heal on siphoning strike.

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

You fool you cant ask to buff a Tank/Bruiser! It's downvote farming!

zlumpy2 votes

Did I miss something? Last time I checked Nas had an infininately scaling q, or did they remove that?

The Cane Master2 votes

Last time I checked Nasus was picked competitively 4 years ago. The fact that amateurs (Dynamic Queue) people don't know how to deal with his stacking doesn't make him any better.

zlumpy2 votes

Just seems like adding dmg to him based on items on top scaling q would put more focus on his late game potential. I totally love HP scaling on tanks but it has to be done right. What if instead of damage he gains even more insane slow from wither for the difference in current health totals. That way if some one tries to harass an hp built nas he just quicksands them even worse than now. This would also mean if they fail miserably at a gank or harass they dont walk away even with flash. You would see a lot more cleanse/qss builds thats for sure.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Just seems like adding dmg to him based on items on top scaling q would put more focus on his late game potential. I totally love HP scaling on tanks but it has to be done right. What if instead of damage he gains even more insane slow from wither for the difference in current health totals. That way if some one tries to harass an hp built nas he just quicksands them even worse than now. This would also mean if they fail miserably at a gank or harass they dont walk away even with flash. You would see a lot more cleanse/qss builds thats for sure.

goes into the wrong direction.

nasus isnt a tank. his job is to carry and deal damage. adding more utility by buffing wither isnt a good idea imo and can easily break him. the weakness of a jugg after all is still to remain kitable to a degree.

adding more utility to certain champs is also very dangerous, as its often more valuable than damage or defense.

look at how much fiddles new movement speed passive that they removed for his old resistance shred passive (effectively trading utility for damage) buffed him with his rework.

Swiftstrike41 votes

I think that change would be appropriate thematically, but it may be too strong? Not sure. I am always hesitant with Nasus changes because I don't want the champion to be tweaked too much that he is too strong or too weak.

I think the only Nasus buff that should happen is a slight buff to his base stats. I don't think he has any scaling MR and I would prefer a little more starting health on him.

Dealth1 votes

"The only juggernaut that doesn't scale with his HP"

???

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

Mordekaiser Skarner Sion These guys all have hp scaling abilities. And are Juggernauts.

He seems to be forgetting Darius Illaoi though.

Sasogwa3 votes

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Mordekaiser Skarner Sion These guys all have hp scaling abilities. And are Juggernauts.

He seems to be forgetting Darius Illaoi though.

Darius Illaoi both have %missing health heal, which is technically a scaling with HP

The Cane Master1 votes

None of his spells scale by % of his max HP, like there is on Garen, Mordekaiser, Skarner, Sion and other juggernauts.

ReZisT Lust1 votes

he gets free damage he doesnt need hp scaling ult he just farm and then becomes broken later

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