It's hard as balls to get S-Rank as Support

Darius Strada··2 votes·922 views
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Played a regular game as full AD Thresh top - got S-. Cool, it gave me a token.Just need one more to get Mastery 6. Played an amazing game as Thresh suppoert - A-, B- Wow. Serioulsly? Warded everywhere, saved everyone, eliminated their vision ,contributed a lot in teamfights and kills and this is what I get?

I think someone should revaluate the supports ranks because it's feels like you played for nothing and our efforts didn't matter. It's nowhere near as rewarding as other lanes.

Sincerely,

an average/noob support player.

11 Comments

Vesarixx2 votes

I just got 2 S ranks back to back, support both games

Sariat11 votes

Cause kills and CS count more towards the rating than wards, epic plays, saves, and assists.

NiamhNyx1 votes

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Cause kills and CS count more towards the rating than wards, epic plays, saves, and assists.

if your a support wards count a lot. If i dont place at least 30 wards in a game, i usually get an A

Sariat11 votes

I'm just saying that they count_** less.**_

Mysticman891 votes

I'm not sure that's true, it's just since you're compared to others on the same champ/role, and the typical support isn't getting many kills/cs, it's easier to be ahead of the curve with only a handful of kills and a little cs. If you were way ahead of the curve by the same amount relatively speaking, I suspect warding would carry the same weight, it's just most supports do ward a lot so being ahead of the curve there is much harder.

Sariat11 votes

I was under the impression that the way rating was determined didn't change based on your role. I say that based off of the fact that you still get ratings in ARAM and in Blind Pick, both of which have no idea what role you are playing.

Mysticman891 votes

The game figures out your role independently of whatever you were assigned in SR, so blind pick doesn't matter there (you can be assigned support but if you jungle instead, you'll be graded compared to junglers, not supports). You don't currently get ratings in ARAM.

The way you're graded is the same regardless of role/champ in so far as all the same performance metrics are considered (as in warding/kda/objectives/etc), but your actual grade is based on your percentile performance compared to all others on that champ/role. So since everything is taken into account, you need to be ahead of the curve on everything to get the best grades (and if you're below the curve, that'll hurt you). It's not that warding counts for more in the case of supports, so much as most supports do place a lot of wards, and so if you're way behind in the curve by neglecting vision you probably won't get a good grade. At the same time though, supports don't typically get many kills, so if you get handful of them on most supports, then you will be ahead of the curve and so have a positive impact on your grade if you don't neglect other areas. (Occasionally you do see posts about people with big KDAs, but they completely neglected to ward, and their stellar performance in one regard was sortof canceled out by their lackluster in another.

The champ being a factor as well as role means some supports who actually do tend to get their hands bloody (brand for example) will need more than something like a janna.

Main point being, it's all relative to how other people do in the same role/champ, versus any particular absolutes required. If everyone who played draven adc went 0/0/30 and placed 5+ wards/minute (e.g. their performances were typical of what most people expect of supports), then to get an S+ as draven adc people would not only need to ward a ton and get a ton of assists, they'd also need a handful of kills. Simply getting a bunch of kills and not warding/assisting at all would actually likely hurt them in that scenario, despite that being the 'proper' way to play draven, since it's all relative to the communities performances, and if the community was performing exceptionally in the 'wrong' ways, then that would still set the bar for him.

Of course, in the big picture every champ is played the 'right' way on average, and so for the most part if you do what you're 'supposed' to do on any given champ/role combo and you do it well, you'll get a good grade. People just tend to lose sight of just how good some of the best performances are in some roles (particularly supports), and so when their good (but not actually that amazing in the big picture) performance doesn't get them an S+, they tend to grumble that the only way to get good grades is to play the champion wrong (e.g. KSing as a support). While more kills than average would help sure, it's not because they 'need' kills, it's more likely that they're not as amazing as they think they are in terms of assists/warding and being ahead of the curve in kills can counter balancce their only average performances in other areas.

Lost R1 votes

I get an assload of S-ranks as a support; I'd say my AVERAGE is around A-A+.

Trust me, the best supports out there are some of the most terrifying players you will ever encounter, and their S-rank averages are insanely high.

ThatH1N11 votes

When you play thresh support buy a zzrot and banner put it in top or bot lane to get some CS. Try to steal a few kills during the game and get 60+% kill participation and you should get an S

FreudFromSKA1 votes

Yeah I went like 7/7/10 or so with support malphite and got an S. Was pretty surprised, but clearly things other than KDA make your rating. I see lots of supports running full kill lane mode, buying mejais and no sightstone. They don't get an S for a great KDA.

Darkchaotix1 votes

I just went 1-2-21 with Nami in ranked, all my team mates were like GG nami mvp and such but A+ rank :/ 80% kill participation which should be amazing for a support and only 2 deaths again amazing for supports especially ones like nami who need positioning and such. but oh well, 1 more S for my rank 6....

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