Kayn's determination is stronger than Kai and Valmar's love

Darius Strada·Dec 1, 2017·78 votes·3,790 views

Kayn alone can keep Rhaast at bay and may even possibly conquer him while Valmar and Kai can't 2v1 Varus in their own body.

64 Comments

desertcrocDec 1, 201760 votes

Kayn played a lot of undertale

Big Black CrocDec 2, 201713 votes

Nice fucking username

LùmenDec 2, 20173 votes

I feel like there's a joke here or something that I'm failing to understand

edit: oh nevermind. determination xd

Troll for TrumpDec 2, 201728 votes

Report Kai and Valmar can't even 2v1, gtfo out of my promos

Darius StradaDec 2, 20175 votes

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Report Kai and Valmar can't even 2v1, gtfo out of my promos

Fucking noobs xD

ChompyWulfDec 2, 201725 votes

I think Kayn's superior willpower can be attributed to several factors. He survived being an enslaved child soldier. He was taken in and trained as a member of a shadow assassin clan. He has undertaken missions with goals he had to chase after. He is a survivor, molded by surviving some nasty things.

What about the gay hunters? They were hunters, and one was dying from battle. Sounds like no known displays of willpower close to Kayn.

MysterQDec 2, 201717 votes

Wow, you summed up these "developed" characters in three words. They were hunters.

I know nothing about them.

Velzard of KozDec 2, 201718 votes

We know they were gay hunters, too. Don't underestimate how developed they were. Kappa.

Weiss GuertenaDec 3, 20172 votes

But how can't people see all the time and effort that clearly went into developing two hunters between "they are gay and in love"? I mean, according to all the new lore defenders, it's much better written and developed than that cringy old vengeance trope.

AntiSkillshotDec 2, 20175 votes

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Wow, you summed up these "developed" characters in three words. They were hunters.

I know nothing about them.

Ikr? Such development, much wow.

GelsominoKillerDec 2, 201724 votes

Kayn's EDGE is stronger than Kai and Valmar's love

The edge is the key

Talos of AltmoraDec 2, 20174 votes

To truely defeat a darkin, you must out edge them. That's the only truth.

Velzard of KozDec 2, 20177 votes

But what If Valmar and Kai build item 3031 . They are Marksmen in the end.

Darius StradaDec 2, 20173 votes

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Kayn's EDGE is stronger than Kai and Valmar's love

The edge is the key

item 3031 Kayn

DragonSheaDec 2, 201713 votes

Kayn Hey Varus, my will is greater than the couple within you.

Varus : DAMN YOU!!!!!!

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/64/KaiSquare.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/20?cb=20171130201500 and https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/9a/ValmarSquare.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/20?cb=20171130201459 :

https://i.imgur.com/lXSWGjR.jpg

Darius StradaDec 2, 20172 votes

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Hey Varus, my will is greater than the couple within you.

: DAMN YOU!!!!!!

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/64/KaiSquare.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/20?cb=20171130201500 and https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/9a/ValmarSquare.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/20?cb=20171130201459 :

https://i.imgur.com/lXSWGjR.jpg

Kai and Valmar are fucking normies

ArakadiaDec 2, 20179 votes

Kai and Valmar aren't in their own body though.

And their still learning how to fight off the Darkin.

BerserknurpleDec 2, 20179 votes

Kayn is also the prize pupil of a ninja school literally dedicated to forbidden/corrupting magics, and knew what he was getting into. Plus we don't really know how powerful Rhaast is compared to Varus.

DragonSheaDec 2, 20179 votes

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Kayn is also the prize pupil of a ninja school literally dedicated to forbidden/corrupting magics, and knew what he was getting into. Plus we don't really know how powerful Rhaast is compared to Varus.

Also, owing to the fact that Kayn can actually (in game) win their power struggle can purge Rhaast from his blade body. Kayn both has the will and the skill to screw a darkin over. It makes his ego more or less justified.

Evil YasuoDec 2, 20175 votes

Kayn is a BAMF though

Darius StradaDec 2, 20171 votes

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Kayn is a BAMF though

true

PokladnicaZlaDec 2, 20175 votes

Umm, isn't it more complicated than that? Like,one side you have the Darkin striving off Valmar's thirst for vengeance and taking him over,while on the other side you have Kai as the moral compass trying to lead Valmar to do the right thing. Kinda like id ,ego and super-ego.

BerserknurpleDec 2, 20172 votes

Get your nuance out of here

resumedDec 2, 20173 votes

kayn is also gay and his designer confirmed on reddit that he had at least a crush on zed @ one point

ArakadiaDec 2, 201713 votes

That wasn't cannon. It was a joke.

resumedDec 2, 20174 votes

thats what you think, i actually follow his twitter and its most definitely not a joke

HarrowRDec 2, 201716 votes

Varus is Gay,Kayn is gaay,Zed is gay,everyone is gay,you happy now?

Velzard of KozDec 2, 201718 votes

Traps are gay, too. Don't forget that.

DeunneDec 2, 20173 votes

but.....im straight....yet.....im androgynous/a trap [sg-janna] WHYYYYYYY! WORLD WHYYYY!?

Moonfall SaberDec 2, 20171 votes

Yet taric is straight....

FSP P1 R8tsuckDec 3, 20171 votes

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That wasn't cannon. It was a joke. A bitter joke...

TwinkieProDec 2, 20171 votes

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kayn is also gay and his designer confirmed on reddit that he had at least a crush on zed @ one point

Eh, it's not an attraction based on sexual orientation. Kayn is drawn to his master for his power and skill, as well as being better than him. It's a student crushing on his teacher. These things happen because of the influence a teacher can have over the students and why student-teacher relationships are illegal.

Again, has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Not sure why this even contributes to the discussion.

DragonSheaDec 2, 20171 votes

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Eh, it's not an attraction based on sexual orientation. Kayn is drawn to his master for his power and skill, as well as being better than him. It's a student crushing on his teacher. These things happen because of the influence a teacher can have over the students and why student-teacher relationships are illegal.

Again, has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Not sure why this even contributes to the discussion.

Think of it like the Sith rule of two. Kayn wants to beat Zed so he can prove he is superior can further their teachings.

resumedDec 2, 20171 votes

yeah its not gay hes just so happy to see zed under him in something :/

AzteryzDec 2, 20173 votes

well i think kayn knowing shadow magic is a big help + his messed up child solider days probably gave him thick skin

Ahri BakaDec 2, 20173 votes

and here I don't which one was Kai and who was Val xD

OleandervineDec 2, 20173 votes

Kayn is weaker or stronger, depending on what outcome we believe happens. In one scenario, Kayn wins and absorbs Rhaast's power. In the other scenario, Rhaast wins and exterminated Kayn. However, at current, Kayn and Rhaast coexist (if constant battling of wills can be existence).

Varus meanwhile is still in this gestalt state. He's got 2 men who were simple hunters, who were subjected to the horrors of war. They weren't trained relentless since their youth to be an iron willed killing machine like Kayn. They have each other and their love, and when Varus threatens to pull one of them under, the other pulls him back to the surface again. Also, they were both nearly dead when Varus salvaged their flesh. We currently do not know their outcome, because we don't know if Varus or the men win.

So Kayn, and Val/Kai are on the same level at the moment, because neither has gone either way yet.

DragonSheaDec 2, 20171 votes

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Kayn is weaker or stronger, depending on what outcome we believe happens. In one scenario, Kayn wins and absorbs Rhaast's power. In the other scenario, Rhaast wins and exterminated Kayn. However, at current, Kayn and Rhaast coexist (if constant battling of wills can be existence).

Varus meanwhile is still in this gestalt state. He's got 2 men who were simple hunters, who were subjected to the horrors of war. They weren't trained relentless since their youth to be an iron willed killing machine like Kayn. They have each other and their love, and when Varus threatens to pull one of them under, the other pulls him back to the surface again. Also, they were both nearly dead when Varus salvaged their flesh. We currently do not know their outcome, because we don't know if Varus or the men win.

So Kayn, and Val/Kai are on the same level at the moment, because neither has gone either way yet.

Tbh Val and kai are fodder compared to Kayn with their respective Darkin weapons.

QueenpinDec 2, 20171 votes

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So Kayn, and Val/Kai are on the same level at the moment, because neither has gone either way yet.

Not really

Kayn is currently resisting Rhaast on his own, where as Val needs Kai there to keep him grounded. What Kayne can do on his own Val is incapable of, which means Kayn is the stronger person.

FlameHalbrdOkidoDec 3, 20173 votes

yeah so im just waitng 4 Varus the kick which everone is the moral compass out like how Aatrox and Rhaast can handle their hosts, then Riots precious lil interesting unique emotional, ethical soul fighting dynamic goes poof

cause we all kno Varus could do it easy, not sure why it hasn't yet.

zaire90Dec 2, 20172 votes

I mean its not the 1st time Sasuke's held off a transformation

MysterQDec 1, 20171 votes

I mean, maybe Kai would be ok? Kai was also the one saying leave him, etc. Valmar is the question mark (obviously). Honestly, Idk what Kai is. Just an inner voice now.

AFilthyCaitMainDec 2, 20171 votes

Basically this. Val (mostly Val) and Kai are feeding Varus' power by their hate and all that, therefore making Varus stronger. I also get the feeling Varus is the stronger of the Darkin

Darius StradaDec 2, 20174 votes

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Basically this. Val (mostly Val) and Kai are feeding Varus' power by their hate and all that, therefore making Varus stronger. I also get the feeling Varus is the stronger of the Darkin

I don't think he said that seriously but I would much prefer Kayn being gay than Varus

Tarquin96Dec 2, 20171 votes

a rioter said(as a joke) on the reddit ama when kayn got released that eh si in lvoe with zed

Catwalk LadyDec 2, 20175 votes

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Basically this. Val (mostly Val) and Kai are feeding Varus' power by their hate and all that, therefore making Varus stronger. I also get the feeling Varus is the stronger of the Darkin

It's cause he's an ADC. ;D

ThefrostyvikingDec 2, 20171 votes

Please, Shadow kayn would wreck him in a heartbeat if he ever went away from his towers xD

Even aatrox could do it.

Near full damage rhaast would probably also have a pretty easy time.

Whyte LyonDec 2, 201710 votes

I personally believe Kai is the body, strength and agility. While Val is the unhinged emotion, unwavering desire and a counter balance to Kai's willpower to resist. With Varus' utilizes both aspects like batteries into a semi-cohesive whole.

This makes the decision to pick two humans more logical to me. Then Varus has more of a chance at taking the wheel than one of the other two.

MysterQDec 2, 20172 votes

I thought Varus specifically said he took Valmar's body. I mean it is vague, but there.