Can we revert the changes to orange essence?
Please?
Please?
Why was it even changed in the first place? With chests i get a bunch of champ shard still.
With cheats i get a bunch of champ shard still.
You should really fix the typo before a ban comes your way :^)
lol
honestly, they need to revert it or else they will actually see some downside in their "revenue"
honestly, they need to revert it or else they will actually see some downside in their "revenue"
This. I am saving my shards until they do.
honestly, they need to revert it or else they will actually see some downside in their "revenue"
All their revenue comes from them Asian teams, so us common folk don't matter.
can we revert everything
Aight. Beta LoL is coming back kiddos, let's see what happens with
this time around.
Don't worry guys, a Rioter in the other thread said they were gonna introduce more orange essence through other programs.
When?
Soon™
It's totally not shady to secretly nerf all the skin shard values before those other systems are ready.
Secretly nerf Implying RIOT hasn't been open about it
They've fucked us over, but they're looking us in the eye while doing so. Don't exaggerate.
You know the creators of game of thrones are going to need to have a talk with riot about using their trademark Soon™
Don't worry guys, a Rioter in the other thread said they were gonna introduce more orange essence through other programs.
When?Soon™
It's totally not shady to secretly nerf all the skin shard values before those other systems are ready.
You know through SELLING YOU EVENT PASSES>>>>
Other programs like snow capsules yeah u do get orange essence from them but what if the person doesn't have enough money to purchase those capsules, the new system is only gonna benefit the rich ppl
Yeah seriously. I just disenchanted a legendary skin for only 364 essence. the value is complete garbage that doesnt even get you to enchant the really low value skins
They cost way more then you get for disenchanting anything good.
Yeah seriously. I just disenchanted a legendary skin for only 364 essence. the value is complete garbage that doesnt even get you to enchant the really low value skins
They cost way more then you get for disenchanting anything good.
Two legendary skin disenchants for one 675 valued skin isnt the greatest trade
Because rito thinks taking shit away from players is a good way to make money.
I have 1100 orange essence. Have no idea when I will complete the 1500 essence needed to upgrade my aether wing kayle shard. Need at least one more legendary skin shard to upgrade it...
While I agree that it sucks that we won't be getting skins as fast, please consider this simple fact: RIOT IS GIVING YOU PAID CONTENT FOR FREE!!! Complaining that free content isn't free enough is just not an okay thing to do. They would have been entirely justified never even putting those skin shards in the boxes.
While I agree that it sucks that we won't be getting skins as fast, please consider this simple fact: RIOT IS GIVING YOU PAID CONTENT FOR FREE!!! Complaining that free content isn't free enough is just not an okay thing to do. They would have been entirely justified never even putting those skin shards in the boxes.
Well what about the people who were buying a hundred chests and keys for youtube videos and live streams? Doesn't that completely tank part of the chest's value if you're getting way less now? Is there a difference between purchased chests and ones gained for free? Imagine if the Overwatch devs thanked some of the RNG numbers and sell values of dupes you could get from their chests without making it abundantly clear that things were reduced? Feels like another riot double standard if you ask me.
EDIT: The whole RNG chest thing wasn't completely done out of the goodness of their hearts either. It's been a standard practice ever since Blizzard made it obvious to other companies that they could receive BILLIONS just by adding an RNG factor to their service and giving some players the chance to win big by paying real money. When chests were first added we had a chance to RNG stuff for cheaper than what we'd have to pay using IP or RP on the normal shop. This itself is a common gambler trap to get people into throwing more money than they normally would in an attempt to get more than what they paid for. I could go into detail with how it's done and all that but I think you get the picture.
Ok, but none of Blizzards big titles are free-to-play (sorry, HotS and Hearthstone pale in comparison to Diablo, Warcraft (especially WoW), StarCraft, and Overwatch). Even to this day, the only thing we can spend money on for League are skins and other cosmetic items. By giving us a way to obtain them for free, Riot was willingly giving up at least a portion of their profit margin (even though I'm sure they ended up breaking even by appealing to the gamblers and and people who were like "ooo kewl skin shard, lemme just buy some boxes to farm orange essence").
As for people buying/opening hundreds of chests for youtube videos, first of all, they don't HAVE to do that. They are doing it as part of their fan service because they believe it will benefit their channel (and any monitization it gets) in the long run. Also, the problem you're facing is simply your reference point. You believe that because Riot "nerfed" Orange Essence gains that loot boxes suck now. But think of it like this: what if Riot had launched hextech crafting as it is right now? You would have nothing else to compare it to, and you'd think it was great because it gave you the opportunity to get free stuff. Clearly Riot (and/or Tencent) has decided that micro-transactions are no longer as lucrative, and so they reduced the amount of free stuff they give us in an attempt to encourage us to whip out our credit cards again. It's just a business decision. And as much as I hate some of the bullshit Riot has done over the years to turn a profit (I'm still rather offended by the introduction of Chromas) the reduction of orange essence isn't one of them.
SC:BW (IE. The good one) is free. Plus I would put big money on HS bringing in more cash than D3.
Maybe at present, but not at D3 launch...
I think in terms of overall profit, HS has brought in more than D3.
The point is still sound...
Ok, but none of Blizzards big titles are free-to-play (sorry, HotS and Hearthstone pale in comparison to Diablo, Warcraft (especially WoW), StarCraft, and Overwatch). Even to this day, the only thing we can spend money on for League are skins and other cosmetic items. By giving us a way to obtain them for free, Riot was willingly giving up at least a portion of their profit margin (even though I'm sure they ended up breaking even by appealing to the gamblers and and people who were like "ooo kewl skin shard, lemme just buy some boxes to farm orange essence").
As for people buying/opening hundreds of chests for youtube videos, first of all, they don't HAVE to do that. They are doing it as part of their fan service because they believe it will benefit their channel (and any monitization it gets) in the long run. Also, the problem you're facing is simply your reference point. You believe that because Riot "nerfed" Orange Essence gains that loot boxes suck now. But think of it like this: what if Riot had launched hextech crafting as it is right now? You would have nothing else to compare it to, and you'd think it was great because it gave you the opportunity to get free stuff. Clearly Riot (and/or Tencent) has decided that micro-transactions are no longer as lucrative, and so they reduced the amount of free stuff they give us in an attempt to encourage us to whip out our credit cards again. It's just a business decision. And as much as I hate some of the bullshit Riot has done over the years to turn a profit (I'm still rather offended by the introduction of Chromas) the reduction of orange essence isn't one of them.
Obviously you don't comprehend that the vast majority of skin shards are from paid content like boxes or event passes.... Those items were sold as collectable until you were ready to craft or disenchant them. That means every pass and box had an expected value on average. So people who bought boxes and passes months ago thinking they could garner enough essence to eventually craft a saved shard just got an expiration date attached to something that was originally implied to be evergreen. The myth that this affected only the free box a week crowd is just that, a myth. It affected paying customers much more.
BTW, Hearthstone is Blizzards highest grossing product now. They announced that in financials over a year ago.
One of two things is going on here: either the old loot system was allowing players to get skins for cheaper than their intended value, and Riot has declared a big "fuck that shit" with this change, or Riot has made a change to the drop rate of skin shards in said loot boxes and thus changed the value of orange essence to accommodate. Given that they literally stated that the second fact is true, I'm going with that one.
Also, seeing as how literally 0 people are holding a gun to your head and forcing you to pay for lootboxes, you are in fact complaining about free stuff. QED.
That actually makes an interesting question. Do we buy chests to get Orange essence, or do we buy them to get the shard? That's what we're being sold, the Shard. Anything we don't want is Orange essence, but that's not what's being sold technically.
While I agree that it sucks that we won't be getting skins as fast, please consider this simple fact: RIOT IS GIVING YOU PAID CONTENT FOR FREE!!! Complaining that free content isn't free enough is just not an okay thing to do. They would have been entirely justified never even putting those skin shards in the boxes.
Wrong.... Most every player purchased at least a few of the chest and everyone who purchases any of the event passes got screwed. They are not free content. So please stop thinking they are.
lol what are you talking about? What event pass? Who got screwed? You literally aren't even making a coherent statement here...
Also, if you are insinuating that people had boxes or world's chests saved up, Riot literally announced in-client that you should open them before the end of the season for this exact reason. You people have literally no leg to stand on here. Riot has decided that they aren't making enough money on microtransactions, so they dialed back the amount of free stuff they give us. If you have a problem with that, then you are literally the definition of entitled, and you should probably grow up. Riot isn't obligated to give you orange essence or skin shards. Riot doesn't have to give you skins. There's a cash store for those. They are doing it because they want to give their players some freebies to entice people to keep playing and also to give us a more tangible reward system.
lol what are you talking about? What event pass? Who got screwed? You literally aren't even making a coherent statement here...
Also, if you are insinuating that people had boxes or world's chests saved up, Riot literally announced in-client that you should open them before the end of the season for this exact reason. You people have literally no leg to stand on here. Riot has decided that they aren't making enough money on microtransactions, so they dialed back the amount of free stuff they give us. If you have a problem with that, then you are literally the definition of entitled, and you should probably grow up. Riot isn't obligated to give you orange essence or skin shards. Riot doesn't have to give you skins. There's a cash store for those. They are doing it because they want to give their players some freebies to entice people to keep playing and also to give us a more tangible reward system.
EVENT PASSES are the items we bought (not free stuff) like worlds pass and the arcade event. Those all gave skin shards kid. You also need to get your shit straight and realize like many ignorant forum posters here you are wrong about the notice. The in client notice addressed only champ shards and blue essence it had no mention of ORANGE ESSENCE. As a matter of fact the only mentions of reduced OE was in a "Riot PLZ " article 3 months ago and a solitary boards post on the topic 2 months ago. Get your facts straight before you look stupid next time please. No one is talking about "free" stuff here. Cant help if you are a pleeb, but the rest of us bought merchandise and expected that the shards were not going to sunset unless the game went out of business. They basically set an expiration date for all saved shards that were bought with completely different expected values than what they are worth now.
When you grow up and spend you own money on items you will not appreciate the seller reaching into your bag after a transaction and taking half of what they sold you back. So realize Riot was not giving us anything. They were selling us products and pulled a bait and switch.
Just so you know kid when you buy something you are entitled to it much like you shitty opinion on the matter.
You have provided precisely 0 evidence to support your point, and yet you call me "kid". You are factually trash. You are complaining about not getting enough free stuff. That's it. Done. No event passes have been sold this season, so this is not a valid argument. Stop it now and admit what you really are: a greedy "kid".
You have provided precisely 0 evidence to support your point, and yet you call me "kid". You are factually trash. You are complaining about not getting enough free stuff. That's it. Done. No event passes have been sold this season, so this is not a valid argument. Stop it now and admit what you really are: a greedy "kid".
The post is full of evidence for the literate. You are wrong from the first post to this one. You pull shit out of your ass when someone points it out, because you are child that cant admit he is wrong. Grow up kid or at least learn to read and reason. The fact that 3 passes were sold this season shows don't even know what you are talking about. Those skin shards from those events exist even after the season ended.
No mater how mentally deficient you are there is no excuse for confusing something someone paid for with "free", and frankly saying it over over just makes you look like a dumbass. So have your mom explain how mediums of exchange work. There is literally nothing free in this game. Even the the cheapest trinket costs time, and the VAST majority of players are spending money.
So grow up kid or even better just go on to bed, because you cant turn anything you have posted on this thread into actual fact.
LULZ Says items from PURCHASED passes are free...... LULZ Says items from PURCHASED boxes are free..........
You desperately need a ban from these forums and I will continue to report your (incorrect) vitriol as you spew it. The fact of the matter is, Riot announced this change, so if you held onto any event boxes or keys or shards, you fucked up. That's 100% on you. Riot warned you, you didn't listen. Sorry, not sorry.
And as for the event pass conundrum, THE SEASON LITERALLY ENDED LAST TUESDAY (or smthn like that, I can't be bothered with the exact date and time). There has absolutely not been even a single event pass since then, let alone 3. So I assume you are talking about event passes BEFORE the end of the season. To which I reply: how the fuck is that relevant??? You purchased these before the value of essence changed, Riot gave you ample notice of the impending change, and you either didn't heed that warning, or...well I'm not even sure why else you'd be this butthurt.
Also, you are ignoring the fact that Riot stated in that same "riot plz" post that loot boxes would have higher skin drop rates, and guarantees that you would not go long periods without getting a skin or gemstone (ie increasing gemstone drop rates, as well). So while essence might be down, you can still get more shards and reroll them for a random skin. I'm sure this works out to be a comparable price. And if you think that's too much gambling, THEN FUCKING BUY THE CONTENT OUTRIGHT WITH RP.
You also need to grasp that these boxes are free. You get them for free (well, perhaps you don't, wouldn't be surprised with the way you act, your honor must be level 1 or even 0). If you want to pay for more lootboxes, that's fine, but they are still given out for free. And so the content of these boxes must be balanced around this, or Riot will simply hemorrhage money.
Also, seeing as how literally 0 people are forcing you to buy loot boxes, just don't fkin buy them if you feel their value is no longer worth the money. That's fine, no one is telling you that you have to buy loot boxes. And if enough people do this they'll probably up the value of essence or drop the RP cost of the boxes. But you are taking the side of people who want Riot to "fix" this, which is the very definition of entitlement, and highly childish.
You desperately need a ban from these forums and I will continue to report your (incorrect) vitriol as you spew it. The fact of the matter is, Riot announced this change, so if you held onto any event boxes or keys or shards, you fucked up. That's 100% on you. Riot warned you, you didn't listen. Sorry, not sorry.
And as for the event pass conundrum, THE SEASON LITERALLY ENDED LAST TUESDAY (or smthn like that, I can't be bothered with the exact date and time). There has absolutely not been even a single event pass since then, let alone 3. So I assume you are talking about event passes BEFORE the end of the season. To which I reply: how the fuck is that relevant??? You purchased these before the value of essence changed, Riot gave you ample notice of the impending change, and you either didn't heed that warning, or...well I'm not even sure why else you'd be this butthurt.
Also, you are ignoring the fact that Riot stated in that same "riot plz" post that loot boxes would have higher skin drop rates, and guarantees that you would not go long periods without getting a skin or gemstone (ie increasing gemstone drop rates, as well). So while essence might be down, you can still get more shards and reroll them for a random skin. I'm sure this works out to be a comparable price. And if you think that's too much gambling, THEN FUCKING BUY THE CONTENT OUTRIGHT WITH RP.
You also need to grasp that these boxes are free. You get them for free (well, perhaps you don't, wouldn't be surprised with the way you act, your honor must be level 1 or even 0). If you want to pay for more lootboxes, that's fine, but they are still given out for free. And so the content of these boxes must be balanced around this, or Riot will simply hemorrhage money.
Also, seeing as how literally 0 people are forcing you to buy loot boxes, just don't fkin buy them if you feel their value is no longer worth the money. That's fine, no one is telling you that you have to buy loot boxes. And if enough people do this they'll probably up the value of essence or drop the RP cost of the boxes. But you are taking the side of people who want Riot to "fix" this, which is the very definition of entitlement, and highly childish.
Don't worry kid... flagged you as well. lol You did not read anything in the OP or the past posts at all did you? Go back and sound them out if you have to or ask your mom to read them to you. Then read your post and realize how much you missed. Every single point you tried to make has already been addressed. So ill not reiterate, because frankly you are either willfully ignoring it by this point or are literally full on moron. Moving on kid. You seem to be stuck on a totally different topic than this thread anyway...Hung up on buying boxes TODAY and not grasping the ones already bought or the fact that there was no in client notice about ORANGE ESSENCE. The closest they got was a 3 month old "Riot PLZ" article that literally had one line that did not even mention a ratio and an unofficial post on the boards. These customers have a right to be upset, and certainly don't need a toxic fanboy spouting diatribe. So again kid go back and try reading these posts so you can stay on topic and follow your betters logic at least.
Ur such a dumb fcking ass I hope ur comment goes below thresh hold
RIOT add the letters fk and u and what do you get!