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Aatrox needs a way to boost his movement speed

DonnieDarkin··3 votes·1,177 views

Many champions have a way to do it..Garen, Gangplank, Mundo....but Aatrox NEEDS it to keep auto attacking.

I propose that every hit of Blood Price gives Aatrox 5 movement speed for 5 seconds, stacking up 2/3/4 times. Just someting to reward him for landing consecutive blood price hits and help him chase someone down.

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Who is Taliyah3 votes

Well you can go item 3071 on aatrox

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Yeah and so can other champions. Doesnt mean his kit isnt still deficient

Ralanr2 votes

I mean...it's not like champions buy items to make up for weaknesses or anything.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

They do, but Aatrox is also pulled in more directions with what he needs for his build. Built him tank, he does baby damae, build lots of damage, he can die easily. Skip attack speed and you dont proc your heal fast enough.

Ralanr1 votes

So why not build him bruiser? Bork, BC, visage, deadmans, boots, and a hydra?

DonnieDarkin1 votes

IT sounds good and can work, but with the amount of burst damage in the game and hard CC, his attack speed, unless he has both hellbent and massacre active, is lacking with that build. His most important move is auto attacking. So he can heal or do bonus damage, and the 25% AS from BOTRK isn't enough for me. I feel the deficiency all match

Ralanr1 votes

Bork is honestly the only AS item you can build unless you want to build crit, which no offense, is not something I think Aatrox scales well with.

There's also triforce but...I don't see you building it if you aren't already.

The durability should help with the burst, and if need be you could swap out something for a Steraks to get an anti burst shield.

LyingOnLine2 votes

Aatrox has a slowing projectile and a gapcloser with hard CC attached.

He really doesn't.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Haha so why is he shit then? Stats not high enough? That would make him toxic, too much sustain. It has to be the mechanics of his kit.

He lacks:

A reliable movement ability A way to boost movement speed Built in Crits, %health damage, armor pen or significant magic damage Built in resistances or a way to block, parry or reduce incoming damage

You won't find any other champion in the game that is lacking all of those things. Only Aatrox. He has the most bare bones kit in the game. The things he has, tons of champions have--a way to boost attack speed, a way to heal, a way to defy death...Volibear does that better and Zac makes enemy have to actively do things to stop his revive, which forces a choice in team fights.

It is his kit, so to say he doesnt need improvements on the things he is lacking is nonsense.

LyingOnLine2 votes

50+% winrate suggests that shit is precisely what he is not.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Whats that win rate based on? Whats the win rate of players who have a few hundred games with him vs people with less than say, 30, matches? What is is win rate in Diamond and above?

You cant just spit out a number and expect it to tell the whole story.

LyingOnLine2 votes

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/aatrox/top

Seems like it tells the story of all of those numbers. Also, he climbs up to 53% in Diamond+

Face it dude; Aatrox is not a weak toplaner right now.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Haha. My god, you people on these boards. First of all. How many people in Diamond + mained him to that rank? Or are GOOD players now trying him and doing well in niche picks, thus driving his win rate up?

These numbers don't tell ANYTHING.

LyingOnLine2 votes

They tell you everything you wanted to know.

Now stop shifting the fucking goalposts, you whiny dip.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

You didn't answer my follow up questions. You thought you could just copy and past a percentage and win the argument. Nice try.

LyingOnLine4 votes

I didn't answer your follow up questions because I'm not your fucking schoolteacher, and I'm not a goddamn psychic. The percentages are the stats which are the data. Your feelz are not realz.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Haha oh its my job to organize you statistics? If you think one percentage tells any story about anything, you clearly have never bothered with mathematics or critical thinking. My question were valid and that is you argument, that one number, the burden is on you to argue it, not for me to research for you. God damn, so many jokes of human beings on here.

LyingOnLine1 votes

Look fuckleboy, just in case you've suddenly gone blind between the number of times you got dropped on the head as a child and the time you posted that, maybe go back and actually look at the linked page. If you do, you might find out that they have graphs and statistics for damn near every measurable answer to every question you ever asked me.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Again, you presented an argument based on incomplete data. Its not my job to research your data for you. You should present the ins and outs of it. You are just mad because you were a lazy sack of shit and got called out on it.

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

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Look fuckleboy, just in case you've suddenly gone blind between the number of times you got dropped on the head as a child and the time you posted that, maybe go back and actually look at the linked page. If you do, you might find out that they have graphs and statistics for damn near every measurable answer to every question you ever asked me.

> He climbs to 53% in diamond > http://i.imgur.com/OwJrHKd.png[]

> meme arrows

LyingOnLine1 votes

That was talking about the last patch, dude.

Quepha2 votes

space is relative, and his E slows targets, therefore he possesses a way to increase his movement speed (relative to enemy champions)

gg friendo

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Uh no. The champion he slows likely has a way to also slow or stun and increase their movement speed. Did you think before you posted that?

Quepha4 votes

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Uh no. The champion he slows likely has a way to also slow or stun and increase their movement speed. Did you think before you posted that?

So you don't actually just want Aatrox to have a tool to stick to targets, you want him to have a tool to stick to targets that absolutely trumps any amount of cc or escapes the enemy has so he is completely inescapable?

I can't say I'm very surprised, a lot of Aatrox mains seem to make ridiculous demands for the power state of the champion with absolutely no thought to game balance.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Uh no, that is not what I am saying. How about this, dense one, go back and read the post without you bias and try responding again. Its not a ridiculous demand. The fact that any CC is basically a hard fuck you to him means that the quicker he can get back to autoing the better his chances there. There are a about a million ways right now to shut him down hard--Randuins and Frozen heart, any CC, good kiting...it doesn't end. I like how its no problem for that there are already tons of champs that have stupid amounts of moblity and with their items, are nearly inescapable, but wanting aatrox to have a way to increase his movement speed a little is suddenly going to break the game. God damn fucking trolls. Use brains before you post. For Gods sakes. You should also probably play aatrox in a serious way for a length of time before you let you inflated ego butt in and talk about shit you know nothing about.

tooddsantotip991 votes

aatrox is still fucking trash, switched to Yi and have been experiencing better results

TEA Nietzsche 2 votes

Aatrox is super strong right now.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

Yes, sometimes he is.

Luminier1 votes

Not SUPER strong, but not weak, either. I'd say he's good/decent.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

I believe it. But I won't let Riot decide for me who to play just because they want to leave 20 champions super playable.

AL0001 votes

Issue is AA mechanic... while you hit and you stop... if someone tries to escape while you chase... you have hard time to AA because of stupid AA mechanic...

Phage or Frozen Mallet helps a lot.

NovaDisk1 votes

He does. It's called Blade of the Ruined King.

Garen has a speed steroid but it's also his primary nuke, CC, and escape, so if he uses it to close the gap but can't land it he's useless.

Aatrox already has a gapcloser and a slow.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

most champions have a gap closer and a slow. They also work well with items like item 3142, but yet they have a way in their kit to move faster, so whats your point?

Ruin Lance1 votes

his ult gives movement speed

DonnieDarkin1 votes

No it does not.

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