And he did pretty good, can we stop this go full tank on assassin thing, its not how its suppose to be, ITS NOT HOW ITS SUPPOSE TO GO
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2218464897/220041765?tab=overview
Joe Mana20 votes[deleted]
XeroKimo9 votesWell if I recall correctly that his isolated, evolved Q has a huge base damage and scaling which pretty much allows him to kill people solo while having the enemy have trouble killing him if he goes full tank
Joe Mana4 votes[deleted]
XeroKimo3 votesSo at level 18 that's at a 400 base dmg tho, most likely a khazix evolves it at 6 or 11 tho, so at those times it's a 216 or 341 base dmg on isolated target, and it's on a 3 second cooldown and since most builds now a days can reach 40% easily that's a quite a lot of dmg on a 1.8 second cooldown
His damage is only meaningful if the target is isolated making tank khazix no better than normal khazix in terms of being able to do it's maximum dmg
RoodToob2 votes
main here, tank is kinda wonky now after all the nerfs. Still, Kha does have high base and scaling, and when split pushing, an isolated target would take 500 dmg or so from a q if Kha is full tank. Seeing as the q has a 3 second base, this probably happens at least every 2 seconds, plus theres his passive with IBG, which is a bit of a chunk
Still, the damage is not very high, and tank Kha isn't very good, less so after all of the tanky item nerfs. Even while isolated, tank Kha would take a decent amount of time killing an ADC. If he did well, he got fed early, its possible to do good on most possible builds
YumaS2Astral1 votes
Still, the damage is not very high, and tank Kha isn't very good, less so after all of the tanky item nerfs. Even while isolated, tank Kha would take a decent amount of time killing an ADC. If he did well, he got fed early, its possible to do good on most possible builds
I used to play a semi-tanky (bruiser) Kha'Zix back before Titanic Hydra was nerfed. With a Black Cleaver and a Titanic Hydra, I had all the damage needed and then I could build tanky from there. Sterak's Gage and Maw of Malmortius also used to stack back then, and I loved to build both and become completely immune to an AP's damage. THen I build Randuin for the protection against ADs.
This build could still work to some extent nowadays, if only Titanic Hydra wasn't so weak as of now.
A Basic Island1 voteswat didn't his evolved Q used to do % damage
Joe Mana2 votes[deleted]
A Basic Island1 voteswhen did that get changed o.o
Auz the Ripper1 voteswhen he was building tank the last time
Sire Hippington1 votesThe issue is: isolated Really, if people are isolated vs kah and stay isolated, they made a major mistake and deserv to die. Without any ad, it will at max deal 400damag vs no armor, which would need 3 uses+ the rest of your kit, which with only 10% cdr needs ~9sec. If you stay 9 sec alone and isolated vs an assasin type champ as a squishy, you deserve to die. If he went fulloff instead, you just would die on the spot instead.
Vs non-isolated, it's just 170 damage, his damage is out right pathetic without ad, and even with ad it's rather bad vs non-isolated. And it shows in the numbers of that game, he did the least damage of any sololaner in that game, on a champ with no utillity...
SpecterVonBaren1 votesEvolved W is AOE.
Unfortunate Game1 votesSure he has a lot of ability to stick to his target (especially if he goes IBG) but that's really it for tank Kha'Zix. None of his CC is hard CC or AoE (or both, Ekko) and he has no percent health damage to make his damage as tank meaningful (Fizz)
Have you seen tank rengar its actually quite hilarious on how strong it is...
Auz the Ripper2 votesTankgar has legitimate defensive steroids, better healing, and conditional semi-hard CC. Additionally, his most important damaging is based on total AD, so he can make great use of sterak's.
tank rengar is kinda intentional, one of the goals of the last rework was to make him a bruiser. didn't stick but the spirit of that goal can be seen
Lord Galvatron10 votesI mean you only do damage if they are isolated, and if they are consistently isolated after 20 min into the game and they know you have a Kha'Zix on your team they are boosted monkeys.
Joe Mana4 votes[deleted]
NineTailedMystic1 votesMaw, Titanic, BC?
Lord Galvatron2 votesMaw is not considered a tank item nor is Black Cleaver. Unless you are getting 3500+ hp Titanic Hydra is garbage. Kha needs large amounts of flat AD or AR Pen in his kit which is why you see BC/Gblade on him.
NineTailedMystic1 votesThey still make you considerably harder to kill, while providing raw AD.
Lord Galvatron1 votesYes, but they are not tank Items. If you were going "Tank Kha'Zix" you would not build these items.
The Deckowner4 voteswhere is the full tank that you are talking about? I checked your match history, your last game was 12 days ago and the went 
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ForeverLaxx3 votesToo many people consider anything short of glass cannon to be a "tank build".
awdaf4 votes
is a pretty large investment into being tanky
ForeverLaxx4 votesAnd yet it's still not "full tank".
I know you're farming for upvotes, for some asinine reason people seem to think that matters, but come on. Khazix is already on the weak end of the spectrum compared to his assassin breathren, and he's not even that great when built and played like a bruiser. Get off the "tank assassin" hate train.
awdaf2 votesKha is on the weak end? I haven't checked to see what division you are in, but any decent Kha with a bit of knowledge mechanics carry games if you get ahead by just a little bit, and no, don't say any champion can do that because not every champion in the game has carrying power with such a little lead
ForeverLaxx4 votesI take it that you don't understand how assassins work. Every assassin, when ahead, is designed to stay ahead. Khazix specifically can't do much when behind compared to other assassins, and it's more difficult for him to get ahead when compared to other assassins. This is why he's on the weak side -- it's harder for him to do his job, and he's punished harder for not performing. Only Evelynn is worse in this regard.
Qursor1 votesI dont agree, with this statement, if your team has any cc or ha comes in at the end of the fight and cleans up 2-3 kills, he's back in the game and is a big threat
ForeverLaxx2 votesSo your contention is that someone sitting in the back to snipe kills is able to make up for their deficit, which literally any champion can do.
Cool.
awdaf1 votesNot every champion can come in and snipe 2-3 kills, his jump resets on kills, and damage is amplified on isolated targets, its a different animal
ForeverLaxx2 votesNo, it's not. Khazix can do nothing for his team while behind, so his team has to be able to fight 4v5 long enough for him to farm or catch enough people by themselves (who aren't tanks) in order to catch up. If his team is able to lock the enemy down long enough for an assassin with no damage to get a few kills and finally start building damage (because an assassin who's behind can't afford to be glass), then the team doesn't even need him to function at that point.
Other assassins aren't balanced around the notion of Isolation. They don't require their targets be completely alone in order to finally deal their damage. This is why Khazix is weaker than other assassins when behind.
What part are you not understanding?
RavenKouhai1 votesWhat do you want Riot to do? Make it so you can only build the items suited for your predetermined champion role?
Joe Mana2 votes[deleted]
The Deckowner1 votesi used na.op.gg, it shows both ranked game and normal games even bot and custom games.
awdaf2 votesI was spectating a friends ranked game
The Deckowner1 voteslink to match history?
awdaf2 votesThe Deckowner4 votesok. The khazix did only 16.6k dmg, lowest among all 3 lanes in his team, even the malphite who fed him did more dmg. so... what is wrong with tank khazix? he isn't really doing much dmg.
FourVsFive2 votesMasteries like Grasp of the Undying and others make tanks do decent dmg with no real dmg items.
BluePolarizer2 voteslol the Kha did the 2nd lowest damage in the game out of non-supports - only Volibear and 2 supports had less damage.
This is including full tank Malphite, who did 3k more damage with 1k less gold.
YumaS2Astral1 voteslol the Kha did the 2nd lowest damage in the game out of non-supports - only Volibear and 2 supports had less damage.
This is including full tank Malphite, who did 3k more damage with 1k less gold.
And that's because Malphite's abilities scale with his armor, which is a defensive stat. He also has high base damage on all of his abilities. That's why Malphite can do more damage with a full tank build than Kha'Zix with the same full tank build.
Sire Hippington1 votesWhile he also has alot utillity unlike Kah - which is why tank kah simply isn't any issue at all, same for most tanky assasins, as they simply suck. Assasins with tank gear are annoying, they have enough stickiness and single target damage to 1v1 and it's hard to shut them with their mobillity and tankiness, but they offer next to nothing in teamfights and are mostly a liabillity for their team if they don't snowball hard.
TaoistMaster1 votesSo just delete any items that have hp and resistances..
then we can all have some balance, right?
Arakadia3 votesNope. If you remove tank then burst becomes meta and insane.
MLDzXnRRR1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slappa D Bass,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Zqr4tzmZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-18T18:13:33.910+0000)
So just delete any items that have hp and resistances..
then we can all have some balance, right?
Or delete all items? Kappa. BTW, in HOTS there are no items and the game is better balanced (untill they release a new hero and you have to wait until for the nerfs).
Nogrim1 votesshould have added a titanic hydra and grasp of undying, those would also boost HP and his damage pretty substantially.
Ronin One1 votesI have no clue how that worked. He had 10% CDR only. The only thing that was probably potent in his kit was his W heal bc of spirit visage. Even if he evolved Q with that build it would basically be the same as a non-evolved Q. Plus, I assume with that build that he was reliant on his passive more than his Q for his damage output. The only way for your passive to reset in a teamfight is with his ult and again, he only had 10% CDR. Even more, being full tank like that he couldn't get his E resets like he usually can if he builds full damage because his damage was absolute shit.
Personally, I think Kha'Zix got so ahead that all these disadvantages didn't even matter anymore.
Luxrath1 votesHe has no CC. He might do mediocre damage with evolved q but not enough to be as broken as tanko / fizz. Plus no CC.
originary911 votesAssassins will stop going full tank/semi-tank when it's more rewarding for them to play as an actual Full Damage champion. The fact that they're building tank however, says a lot about the state of the game.
DarkRitual1 votesWhy does a roaming support have a Zeke's?
Covert Ops Gnar1 votesHe did low damage