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It’s not counterplay because there is still half of the roster that cannot do anything to you. If I go and play against a malphite I never think I’m screwed because no matter what champion I pick I can find ways to exploite his weaknesses and beat him in lane if I’m the better player. You can’t do that with juggernauts because they are designed to bully out other melee champions and win lane no matter what.
Yeah and only win lane, then you get out of lane and it’s like “oh, my non mobile, slow, no tank stat champion designed to be balls deep in five people champion that lacks the tools for such” is getting cced down, guess I just die now.
They only get to win against other melees and if they aren’t able to use their advantage to scale harder then others, they just lose because they are once again, not mobile, low range low cc champions that lack the tools in their kit to transition past the laning phase.
There is a reason why none of the juggs see actual play past low elo, Jax on the other hand.