ranged champions abuse melee items but never the other way around
to rectify this I think RFC should have a minimum of 600 attack range
now WE are the marksmen
to rectify this I think RFC should have a minimum of 600 attack range
now WE are the marksmen
Nah it's not fair when melees kill ranged. But it's fair when ranged kill melees.

I think there's at least 1 champion 'abusing' ranged items :P
I mean, you're not exactly wrong. But is the answer really to allow us to abuse marksmen items?
Yes
if everyone is ranged, then no one is
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doesn't change the AA range for ranged champs because it makes all of them go over 600 range already
but melee champions can become marksmen now
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to rectify this I think RFC should have a minimum of 600 attack range
we just need to make more things melee only, and then buff the items back up...
There are some meeles that uses adc items, but only few meeles takes it.
OH LOOK, I'M ONCE AGAIN WRONG. YAY, MORE DOWNVOTES.
LOOK, I GET IT, OKAY? I'M AN ILLITERATE PIECE OF GARBAGE RETARD. YOU DON'T NEED TO RUB IT IN. JUST SHUT THE HELL UP.
why do you care about downvotes at all lol
they aren't important desu, you just misread the OP
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why do you care about downvotes at all lol
they aren't important desu, you just misread the OP
I care because I'm a failure who can't do anything right. I'm already on a hilariously bad losing streak in this game, I don't need to entertain the possibility that I'm brain-damaged on top of that.
b o i you need to relax
I get -25 on at least 1 post a day, shitty Reddit voting system shouldn't bother you
down votes mean nothing
i can get -50 by calling out bronze players or i can get 100+ by making a proper balance post i'ma god at both lad.
In general, ranged should usually have the advantage over melee (besides sometimes assassins). However, the game is getting near a point where almost any melee can overpower any ranged champion because of their kit's included mobility.
is the only marksmen with more than 1 gap increasing/decreasing ability (W and R) where all others have at most 1 but more often none and if they do have them, they generally have long CDT which can never be spammed unless you get resets.
So I kinda understand why ranged champions can get to "abuse" melee items. It is because those items tend to offer increased mobility while not granting a whole lot of defensive stats besides some health or some MR and maybe a shield. But, there is no item which gives both Armor and AD. Yet there is a defensive (melee focused) item
which counters marksmen in many ways (it gives both armor and health for increased defensiveness (+60 armor / +500 health), applies a passive attack speed reduction from being hit (-15% for 1 second), crit damage reduction (-10% crit damage), and movement speed reduction (-35% for 4 seconds) on active).
I am abusing ranged items when I play Fiora. :3
I am planning on looking into Statikk Shiv into my Fiora build very soon.
I'm also planning to test out full Lethality Fiora.