Baron should have 1 hit mechanics that need to be dodged by the player.

lolipopevelynn·Jun 3, 2017·5 votes·377 views

Honestly he is just a giant punching bag that is not very engaging or fun to fight. he has abilities that can be dodged but unless you have literally 10 hp when doing the fight his abilities dont matter at all, and his knock up is annoying at the very best since he doesnt follow up with anything. maybe change the baron into an actual action MMO type of boss fight where you HAVE to dodge certain abilities and learn his mechanics in order to not die. For example, if you dont dodge his tentacle knock up it will lead into either death or a significant chunk of your HP being taken away. it will just make him more fun to fight aswell as make people actually think, especially when trying to contest it vs the enemy team.

also maybe give him a special announcer VO when he kills a player or even wipes an entire team.

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EcchiOtakuTMJun 3, 20173 votes

Yes because players want to be one-shot by PvE in a pvp game.

All that would do is make baron a not to grab item because it'd be retarded to go for. Which I'd be fine with on a random team since they're probably going to throw a game for baron anyways, but for premade? It's useless.

People already think, engage baron and he chunks the crap out of your HP and lowers your resistances making your death that much easier for the enemy team.

New VO is nice to have, but given baron anything one-shot-wise would make it stupid even debating giving it more damage through attacks. Noone wants to see a 50 second death timer when there's a game to win vs live players.

Could be it's own PvE game mode but keep it out of live PvP. If anything there could be another debuff baron places on a player, but I am not for adding more damage to baron at all.

lolipopevelynnJun 3, 20171 votes

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Yes because players want to be one-shot by PvE in a pvp game.

All that would do is make baron a not to grab item because it'd be retarded to go for. Which I'd be fine with on a random team since they're probably going to throw a game for baron anyways, but for premade? It's useless.

People already think, engage baron and he chunks the crap out of your HP and lowers your resistances making your death that much easier for the enemy team.

New VO is nice to have, but given baron anything one-shot-wise would make it stupid even debating giving it more damage through attacks. Noone wants to see a 50 second death timer when there's a game to win vs live players.

Could be it's own PvE game mode but keep it out of live PvP. If anything there could be another debuff baron places on a player, but I am not for adding more damage to baron at all.

i mean if you are bad enough to not dodge telegraphed attacks idk what to tell ya. you are the kind of guy that seems to complain if you get binded by a lux Q then 1shotted by the follow up. that main difference here is that barons attacks will actually be more telegraphed than that lux Q u just got hit by. for example, do u know how long the window is before baron knocks you up? pretty damn long... to get hit by that you would have to be a vegtable, but being a vegetable is all you need to be to do baron right now. having to actually dodge his attacks is not a bad thing m8.

EcchiOtakuTMJun 4, 20171 votes

If you think the game is just baron vs a team then I guess you'd make that assessment, but if someone goes in with heavy CC and locks up multiple members of the team baron will one-shot making it retarded. I'm the type of guy to not just look at one side of the fight.

Telegraph means 1 thing, an enemy team has a larger chance to completely wipe your team by themselves, which apparently you can't seem to think about. So again, it should never be in live unless you think all players are simply dumb and won't abuse the one-shot mechanic to insta-kill members. I'd rather be killed by a player than killed by being CC'd and finished by 1 BS attack by the baron who is already enough of a hassle with his constant debuff of defensive stats.

He could use more attack speed or increase the rate of debuffing a team, but for a live match I never want him to have a one-shot mechanic.

lolipopevelynnJun 4, 20171 votes

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If you think the game is just baron vs a team then I guess you'd make that assessment, but if someone goes in with heavy CC and locks up multiple members of the team baron will one-shot making it retarded. I'm the type of guy to not just look at one side of the fight.

Telegraph means 1 thing, an enemy team has a larger chance to completely wipe your team by themselves, which apparently you can't seem to think about. So again, it should never be in live unless you think all players are simply dumb and won't abuse the one-shot mechanic to insta-kill members. I'd rather be killed by a player than killed by being CC'd and finished by 1 BS attack by the baron who is already enough of a hassle with his constant debuff of defensive stats.

He could use more attack speed or increase the rate of debuffing a team, but for a live match I never want him to have a one-shot mechanic.

what are you even talking about? even currently the ONLY time you should be doing baron is when it is safe to do so... the scenario you provides is stupid because that is going to happen regardless. you dont do baron when multiple members of the enemy team is still alive to contest. who the fuck does that?

"H-hey guys... 3 members of the enemy team is still alive and near the baron pit, including their jg, lets go do baron!"

this is how you throw games, i hope you realize this. the purpose of the change would be to make baron more engaging and more of a threat rather than a giant minion with 10k HP to DPS down. the buff it gives is literally game ending, so the monster itself should reflect that.

EcchiOtakuTMJun 4, 20171 votes

Ok example->team starts baron cause 4 members of the enemy team are down, zac sees the baron about to do his one-shot combo->jumps in heavily CC's multiple members and suicides to take out 2 or 3 enemy members with him.

Heck to boot unlike most other tanks he might even have his self-revive up.

It's a stupid change, unless you really believe a tank is so dumb he can't chain his CC properly. I know the moment I see such a telegraphed one-hit I can force people to get hit by it with most champs easily.

EmperorPenguJun 3, 20171 votes

It's shouldn't be a 1 shot but it definitely should be strong. If 1 person can solo baron that's a problem. Just like how rift Harold is right now. It is to easy to solo. Kled can solo baron,morde can solo baron, almost anyone can solo baron with the right stuff.