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General Esdeath ··2 votes·519 views

I see some QQ threads and bans here and there about Veigar. Seems to be dying down but I figure I'll tell you guys how I deal with a Veigar every game so you can stop worrying about him. It's the same champion I see a lot of people call brain dead. This guy --> Talon <-- just let the lane push and the enemy Veigar either has to:

A) Give up farm and not stack, removing what makes him strong B) Get harassed for free in lane, letting you kill him and snowball off of him

Make sure to ward up and get a good jungler gank and you can snowball like a monster. Once you're somewhere near 2 or 3-0 you can roam to top/bot and help out those lanes. Not saying Veigar is fine the way he is because he's countered by Talon, this could still fail if you don't poke him down or get ganked constantly. But just something to help you guys out until he gets a slight nerf.

(Another reason I'm writing this is because I had a person in my last game who was going to troll/feed because we didn't ban Veigar, so I'll just put this here so more people will know there's nothing to worry about when it comes to the tiny master of evil. Good luck ranking up for the rest of the season everyone :D Looking forward to season 6.)

2 Comments

ApexInTheCircle2 votes

As a person who Loves playing Talon and Veigar. It is my greatest honor to agree with everything you just said. Once you get a brutalizer and some AD you can pretty much jump the Veigar and burst him forcing him to either

A. Flash and almost die, or die. B. Just accept he's fucked. C. Pop Zhonyas and prepare for your Rake and Q to molest him like a pedo on the shortbus.

Hard4Hamsters1 votes

I honestly feel like the thing that makes Veigar so strong isn't his damage. It's his E. I think that it needs to be changed before Veigar can be in a really good spot. I agree wholeheartedly in his most recent buffs in his W and ability power stacking change as they were things that felt bad playing as Veigar. His E though, that is something that needs addressed more than I think people give it credit for. I think that Veigar needs this ability in some form, but its current iteration is too strong (don't get me started on when it was instant).

What needs to happen is for the Cage to last a shorter time on the field before disappearing or for the duration of the stun to be reduced at later levels or both or a higher CD or all 3 in some form or another. There are a lot of levers to work with, but his E can potentially keep you from moving freely for 5+ seconds (if you are stuck inside the cage and try to escape as early as possible but mistime it and hit the wall anyway) and the area it covers is huge (about the size of a lane width). No matter what, Veigar's E is a HUGE zoning tool for 3.5 seconds at least and makes him very strong just in terms of utility. If it were up to me, either the stun would be a flat 1.5 seconds at all levels or the cage would last only 2 seconds on the field instead of 3 and would have a maximum stun duration of 2 seconds.

With Season 6 coming up, I'm not sure what to expect. What I do know is that Tenacity took a big hit in Merc Treads only granting 20% and the only other way to get tenacity is by dedicating 5 points into a Tier 2 mastery branch for 15% more, some CC is going to be incredibly more valuable, particularly the longer Hard CC duration abilities such as Veigar's current 2.5 second stun on a max rank E (longest stun duration besides Ashe Ult after X distance). Other noteworthy abilities would be Morgana Q, Irelia E, Ryze W, Fiddle Fear, and Cho Silence.

Anyway. That's my piece. I'm pretty terrible at Talon but I'll keep that in mind. Peace.

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