AP Shaco?

trash sion··2 votes·995 views

Did Riot even consider the possibility of AP builds when making Shaco? Those ratios are insane.

With a few AP items, your E turns into a Veigar Ult on a 5 second cooldown and also works on AD champs. Throw in a lich bane, and you've just 100-0'd the enemy tank.

To make matters worse, he has a fear. And it does damage. A single box can chunk half an ADC's health if placed right.

Tl;dr: wat

21 Comments

Dreadlocks3 votes

Okay first off, he doesnt 100-0 tanks with just the added help of lichbane. Most exaggerated thing ive seen all night loooool. Jesus that would be broken as fuck. Second of all, he still offers almost nothing to a team fight.. his split pushing is actually worse with ap shaco. And AP shaco is pretty tough to pull off in the jungle, meaning its more than likely a top shaco. (which is rare all in its own)

AP shaco is strong, but not nearly as bullshit as ur making it sound lol. Relax man.

alasarcher2 votes

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Did Riot even consider the possibility of AP builds when making Shaco? Those ratios are insane.

With a few AP items, your E turns into a Veigar Ult on a 5 second cooldown and also works on AD champs. Throw in a lich bane, and you've just 100-0'd the enemy tank.

To make matters worse, he has a fear. And it does damage. A single box can chunk half an ADC's health if placed right.

Tl;dr: wat

What do you mean like veigars ulti? It doesnt scale from opponent AP/AD.

trash sion1 votes

I mean that it has similar damage and is even a bit superior BECAUSE it doesn't scale off of enemy stats. Can be used to kill AD enemies too.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

And yet almost everyone builds him AD... [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Millicent1 votes

Suprised, right? I thank Pink Ward for showing me AP Shaco. Now, I am in love. It's people like Pink Ward and Shaclone (youtubers) that give these champions such attention.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

First & only time I played him was in One-for-All since I don't own him. Sadly playing once was a difficult learning experience since I had no idea what I was doing. Was still fun with his boxes though! XD

Millicent1 votes

Haha. Well if you want inspiration to use him, I know I sure as hell got a good bit, then watch some of Pink Ward's montages on youtube. He top lanes Shaco and wrecks people. Shaclone is currently titled as the world's best Shaco but I think Pink Ward deserves that title.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

How to make enemy laners mad: Play AP Shaco and abuse boxes... That's what I am getting from that video so far! XD Still looks like fun though. Gonna wait to try him next time he is free.

Anyways: Experimenting with a champions ratios can end up finding some crazy fun ratios. Like on Gnar. He has 2 AP scaling abilites. Hyper with a whooping +100% AP ratio, and on GNAR! with a surprising +50% AP ratio along side a paltry +20% Bonus AD (When it hits a wall both increase to: +30% Bonus AD, and +75% AP)

Millicent1 votes

I plan to have my friend gift me him so I can start to train with him. Then I plan to be like Pink Ward. haha, in my wildest dreams but a dream nonetheless. :p [slayer-jinx-catface]

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Dreaming can give you a good start on where you plan on ending up! Go for it! XD

A Shy Box1 votes

He has his ups and downs.

EvilMerodach1 votes

It's pretty heavily a 1 trick pony, maybe 2 tricks (stacked boxes-bait enemies/e+AA+Q escape+AA again if needed and safe enough) So eventually you'll run into people who won't fall for your shi..nanigans...but it could probably get you to high gold if you learn it well.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Why only high gold? I'm willing to bet one could get higher than that.

EvilMerodach1 votes

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Why only high gold? I'm willing to bet one could get higher than that.

You could probably force it into higher than gold 1, but at that point you're probably fighting an uphill battle. Better to just play something more viable and can do more than 1 shot people who don't build MR and lure people into boxes.

Dreadlocks1 votes

I think if you get good enough at a champion you find ways around that shit. Just my opinion..

Shac Norris1 votes

Pink Ward's Diamond, there was another guy that i forgot the name of that mained him AP in Diamond too.

Shaclone, who reached rank 4 challenger plays him support/ap from times to times in ranked.

Lissama1 votes

Ap Shaco is most toxic and cancerous shit in this game, but riot don't give a fuck.

Shac Norris1 votes

It's funny because i think the same, but about you :)

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Shaco is pretty outdated, imo. He probably needs a minor rework to redesign those scalings, and I doubt Riot is unaware.

The fact is, while he's incredibly frustrating, no doubt, he isn't truly OP... I think if he were, we'd see more of it. I have actually never seen an AP shaco on SR, and there's a reason for that.

Shac Norris1 votes

I play it, just not in ranked :P

Shac Norris1 votes

{quoted}

Did Riot even consider the possibility of AP builds when making Shaco? Those ratios are insane.

With a few AP items, your E turns into a Veigar Ult on a 5 second cooldown and also works on AD champs. Throw in a lich bane, and you've just 100-0'd the enemy tank.

To make matters worse, he has a fear. And it does damage. A single box can chunk half an ADC's health if placed right.

Tl;dr: wat

This guy doesn't get that AP Shaco can be completly countered with free/cheap items (pink ward, red trinket)

And that a single item counters his whole purpose in a match, yeah i'm talking about Banshee's Veil.

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