I would be more inclined to buy the eye items...

RedCyclone··2 votes·454 views

...if it converted the HP into the stat complimenting the gold item, giving item 2301 no HP as a stat but more AP and mana regen and item 2302 would get mana regen and CDR instead of HP

This is probably why we see item 2303 much more then we see the others, because the entire thing is made out of a stat those supports desire

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Aeolian Melodies2 votes

I'd be more inclined to buy the Eyes if they did not have shitty stats on top of sacrificing the powerful active of Talisman or FQC. Like, if they had left the 150% mana regen untouched on the blue Eye while nerfing the mana regen on FQC, maybe I would have been inclined to get it on someone mana hungry like Sona, if I was not going for Crucible that game and wanted just one item to fix my mana. But why would I be sacrificing stats + a great active when comparing item 2301 to item 3092 + item 2045 ?

They're also an odd concept in my opinion because their main appeal is slot efficiency, since it combines your mandatory income item with your mandatory Sightstone, essentially giving you an extra item slot - on the class that does not end with a full build most of the time, that is, and typically thrives on GOLD efficiency as opposed to SLOT efficiency. I feel like they're a better fit for non-supports going support and wanting more gold and room to build what they would buy normally (but even that falls flat since most of these champions are mages, and FQC is quite powerful).

item 2303 has its use since the active on FotM is actually not that amazing, stats are actually decent on this one (but I don't buy it since I don't play supports who use item 3302 's line); item 2301 has completely crap stats, and you lose the frosty ghosts active that is going to be infinitely more useful than one extra slot in virtually every situation; item 2302 errr... imo it's the worst, because the ONE reason to go item 3301 over item 3303 or item 3302 is that you want the active on item 3069 ... the line itself provides less than the 2 others (less gold unless you can't use the 2 others, no combat stats whatsoever, less mana regen in item 3301 and item 3096 vs item 3303 and item 3098 )so why and when in the actual fuck do I want to take my shitty item 3301 , upgrade it into a shitty item 3096 , then instead of getting the active which clearly is the main appeal of this line, getting this item?

Onegarion1 votes

we see item 2303 because the execute proc is still really good. item 2302 gives 6 extra gold and 10 hp which is crap and item 2301 has the same gold on ability hit and the power of item 3092 is beyond what eye of the watchers can give. Its not that item 2303 is that great, but that the passive of the others is crap compared to their actives.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

Well equinox has extra health too

Onegarion1 votes

it does, but that has 0 to do with its strength

RedCyclone1 votes

but it's also not a downside and is complimentary

Erockandroll1 votes

The main appeal to the eye items is the slot efficiency. That comes from combining your sightstone with gold gen. Leaving your more slots open, and the fact that you can combined that item early, means you can rush for secondary items earlier.

So the main reason not to take an eye item is if that the alternative is invaluable, or there is simply no good item to rush. That wouldn't be the case because I think the multi man shield from rushing locket, is better than the shield offered by FoTM. (and the legion passive is pretty good to) I've seen people take Eye of the Oasis over talisman, it actually offers better stats than talisman. but FQC is the odd one, as I can find a dozen uses for the spooky ghosts.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

Frost queen op. Talisman great for engages. Face Sheila falls off. Only eye worth getting is equinox

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