Creep block needs to be fixed

LegacyDAP·Jun 8, 2017·69 votes·2,225 views

I get that it's supposed to add a level of play where you can get punished for walking in front of your own minions, and I genuinely like the idea of that. However, this seems pretty ridiculous I can't even walk through the minions here, I just get teleported out of them.

http://plays.tv/video/5939b83c5ce04b7e92/riot-creep-block-makes-me-tp-

Minion coding feels awful right now. You get blocked by a bunch of dumb shit, siege randomly targets stuff for no reason and messes up cs. What's been going on?

22 Comments

MuzétJun 8, 201713 votes

Still waiting for ally minions to not assist enemy team by blocking my way out without being able to be reported.

Fargo79Jun 9, 20177 votes

ya... i understand enemy creeps blocking your movement.. but why would allied minions do the same???

LegacyDAPJun 9, 20171 votes

to punish you for walking in front of them being between the minion waves, but at this point it feels redundant since enemy minions chase forever.

SexyBabyJesusZJun 9, 20174 votes

creep block shouldnt exist on ally minons

theres no logical or objective reason it exists like that

Pater GascoigneJun 9, 20172 votes

Except there is? You could just stand on top of your minions and make last hitting for your opponent impossible. You could just fade through minions to dodge skill shots. There are a lot of reasons to have minion block in the game. I don't know what's going on right now, but the minion block feels ridiculous right now. Maybe Riot needs to look into it, but removing it completely would be terribly gamebreaking.

SexyBabyJesusZJun 9, 20171 votes

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Except there is? You could just stand on top of your minions and make last hitting for your opponent impossible. You could just fade through minions to dodge skill shots. There are a lot of reasons to have minion block in the game. I don't know what's going on right now, but the minion block feels ridiculous right now. Maybe Riot needs to look into it, but removing it completely would be terribly gamebreaking.

because of the movement system creeps will completely bug out on you and force your character to spaz out and it gets you killed

StaliniumJun 9, 20174 votes

Hahaha maybe the Yasuo players actually DO have something figured out... Yasuo item 3046

Seriously I can hardly play Taliyah right now because to use my E-W combo I need to be up near minions and if I try to use it, then the enemy laner basically gets free harass while I maneuver through the derpity minions

ChillChewyAug 12, 20171 votes

Try playing Renekton, a melee champion that needs to be in the wave to E through for a double dash. All the time I miss creeps because Renekton has to do a 360 in the middle of a wave, or when I dash to my enemy to trade but my E lands me stuck in their wave and end up getting fucked because of it.

PROJECT KatarìnaJun 9, 20173 votes

yeah now imagine playing a melee assassin that has to walk all the way around your minions just to auto one creep and the sporadic movement and aggro of the minions doesnt help etheir

AsutarottoJun 9, 20172 votes

No, the hitbox buff on creeps is one of the best thing ever happened in long time in League.

Play accordingly.

58697132DEL1Jun 9, 20172 votes

It's a problem when i consider phantom dancer on an ap champ just to not have to worrry about it anymore. :/ IDC the "counterplay" of them really, I think you should be able to pass through ally minions.

LeonerdoJun 9, 20172 votes

That clip just shows a network desync. Hitboxes/collisions never teleport you anywhere.
Nothing has "been going on". Minion block hasn't been changed in years.
Minion block is still a problem.

True StealthJun 10, 20171 votes

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That clip just shows a network desync. Hitboxes/collisions never teleport you anywhere.

so then explain shaco ulting over walls?

LeonerdoJun 10, 20171 votes

I haven't seen that happen, but Shaco's ult does move the Shaco (otherwise it would be obvious which one is real). If it happens to be oriented right and it moves him over a very small wall, then just like any dash targeted over a wall, if the end location is in the wall but closer to the other side of the wall, then it will go all the way through the wall.

But I dunno, Shaco's ult is weird, and I don't play him. But it certainly doesn't have anything to do with minions.

LegacyDAPJun 10, 20171 votes

It is a network desync, but it's still pretty awkward for the player to just teleported like that. Minions shouldn't cause desyncs like that lmao.

But yeah, it seems like we're on the same page about it.

the weeabooJun 9, 20171 votes

Make a rune in the new system remove allied creep block. Rework Kass and Fizz passive.

Creep block is more of an issue on some champions than others, namely ADC's and mobile fighters like Fiora.

Problem solved.

ZelorxonJun 9, 20171 votes

HAH, get outplayed son. Working as intended.

ThefrostyvikingJun 9, 20171 votes

Somehow it feels like minion blocking has gotten a bit worse since some patches ago, i didn't notice it at first but i've seen it happen more often.

Minions aggro also became more erratic somehow, they randomly switch targets making it harder to last hit :(

WarpesJun 9, 20171 votes

Are you sure you want that?

Last time they "fixed" it, they actually made it worse. And I'm pretty certain it was completely intentional.

FızzJun 9, 20171 votes

What is Creep block?

Jonjo DanJun 10, 20171 votes

Creeps, also known as minions, will block your path. Since they tend to cluster, moving between them can result in a trap, so you are forced to walk around the wave.

[zombie-nunu-tears]

FızzJun 10, 20171 votes

lol i know what it means, but if you look at my name, u can see i main fizz and fizz's passive allows him to walk between minions without any problem :^)