So are we ever gonna talk about Oblivion Orb + Sorc Shoes + Void Staff?

TotalJerk·Aug 19, 2018·2 votes·1,481 views

I get that the boards tend to favor mages, but this combination literally ignores ALL of every champion except Talon and Pyke's base MR for most of the game. This is a huge reason why Zoe does so much goddamn damage. Why even bother complaining about true damage on her E when the rest of her kit is basically doing true damage anyway? It wasn't as much of a problem before, but with the inability to get MR from runes anymore, the introduction of Oblivion Orb, and recent Void staff buffs this is increasingly becoming a staple build on basically every mage.

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Fízz v2Aug 19, 20181 votes

what about item 3147 item 3142 item 3071 item 3036 tho? Zed oneshotting tanks LUL

TotalJerkAug 19, 20181 votes

The difference is that champions have more armor than health, armor scales harder, and lethality itself also scales with level. At no point does Lethality ever approach true damage.

KhristophorosAug 19, 20181 votes

If a champ is doing that much damage with a pure magic pen build that means the base damage on the abilities is too high.

Reaper SorakaAug 19, 20181 votes

Meanwhile mages complain about ad instantly killing them with no counterplay. AD players say "just get zhonya's n00b lulZzZ!"

I wonder if mages would say "Just get Hexdrinker n00b lulZzZ" Boards have been so weird lately.

HotarµAug 19, 20181 votes

_Just for bias purposes, I am a Pyke main. I also previously mained Shen . _

There are 2 major problems with this post.

but this combination literally ignores ALL of every champion except Talon and Pyke's base MR for most of the game.

**Base **MR. If at any point, someone has 3 full magic penetration items (or 3 full AP items, for that matter) you pretty much deserve to get massacred for not building MR.

item 3814 item 3156 item 3139 are all very viable, effective items for Assassins and Fighters. item 3194 item 3065 item 3190 are very viable, commonly built items for Tanks. item 3111 pretty much every champion gains benefits from these boots, the point is they're very accessible and give great Tenacity.

This is a huge reason why Zoe does so much goddamn damage. Why even bother complaining about true damage on her E when the rest of her kit is basically doing true damage anyway?

While it may be an impact on Zoe's damage, overall her massive damage comes from strong ratios, a lack of counterplay (when slept or CCed in general) and the ridiculous potential of her W.

Personally I think her E should just be reworked all together. It gives too much for:

-being on such a low cooldown -having such a high range -such strong bonuses (damage wise) -missing it ultimately doesn't punish her as hard as it should.

I really don't believe it comes from the Magic Pen. items.