Why Are People Still Complaining About Caitlyn

Rainfall·Jul 22, 2017·10 votes·1,218 views

shes currently at 48% winrate and she lost half her playrate.

25 Comments

BLACK REALM GODJul 22, 20176 votes

because people are confused as to what it means to flank.

undesirable teamJul 22, 20172 votes

still has 2nd most playrate still broken just not as braindead as before

SanctimoniousJul 22, 20172 votes

She's still good in high elo.

KaRniVooL13Jul 22, 20172 votes

Caitlyn has a win rate 48.41% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Caitlyn's are earning a win rate of 55.25% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond I.

LoLalytics ranks Caitlyn at 100 amongst all champions earning a tier grade of Gold.

This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Caitlyn, the win rate and average rank of the best Caitlyn players.

is she ?

if you are wondering just for Diamond elo + for the last week

Caitlyn has a win rate 48.67% for Diamond+ players whilst the very best Caitlyn's are earning a win rate of 55.25% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond I.

LoLalytics ranks Caitlyn at 91 amongst all champions earning a tier grade of Gold.

This ranking takes into account the win rate of Diamond+ players, the pick/ban influence of Caitlyn, the win rate and average rank of the best Caitlyn players.

SanctimoniousJul 22, 20171 votes

Yes. She's a strong champion, and can be somewhat unfun to play against. She has a pretty good play rate and ban rate too still.

KaRniVooL13Jul 22, 20172 votes

i dont know about strong... she is average now... middle of the road some might consider the term "balanced"

SanctimoniousJul 22, 20171 votes

It depends. Champions can be strong without huge numbers. They can also be oppressive without high win rates. They can also be unfun and noninteractive to play against.

I still think she's too strong with SS + RFC combo. Personal opinion from experience.

KaRniVooL13Jul 22, 20172 votes

well you do have a right to have your opinion... not here to make that invalid... but when we are unbias and look at stats of how a champ is doing over 100K + games would be an indication of strenght/power etc

but just like any champ if they get a lead, ahead... where they have more gold = more items more lvls= more stats/abilities they are all hard to over come

i dont care if its urgot , aatrox, or draven... that is a fact that is true...

SanctimoniousJul 23, 20171 votes

You do understand though, how basing data off of high elo gameplay can sometimes be misrepresented though? Even putting feelings and biases aside, i've had people tell me certain picks were "op" because of winrate...

From my experience in playing in diamond, i see: Jhin, Caitlyn, Draven, Trist, and Rat most games. Out of that list, i see Jhin / Cait the most. Still. I think she's still strong and Meta. (lol at draven getting out of ban phase, he's still perma banned).

KaRniVooL13Jul 23, 20171 votes

but she isnt as strong as people wanna cry and make her out to be after the AS nerf... the post of 16 adcs win rates and pick rates is for plat + for this patch with 16 million games + taking into account.

she at best ranks in the lower half..

RainfallJul 22, 20171 votes

those statstics are worthless,any statistic without at least 2000 samples is inaccurate with a 5-15% diference.

KaRniVooL13Jul 23, 20172 votes

how is that shit?

the 1st part of my statement was for all of rank plat + for patch 7.14 with 16,486,190 games

as far as diamond + for the last 7 days its 3,794,980 games

ArakadiaJul 23, 20171 votes

If that's true it still doesn't make sense cause a bunch of mid-low elo people complain too.

Best princess EUJul 22, 20172 votes

still 100% pick/ban rate in pro

and we're balancing around pro atm, which is why meddler mentionned a potential nerf to her

LankPantsJul 23, 20171 votes

Two things

Firstly, no she's not. She never has been. At best she was a 100% pick/ban in the west. I can tell you in Korea at her peak she was picked or banned in maybe 20-30% of games. This is always something you should consider when you say a champ is a pick/ban in pro play.

Secondly she was just nerfed last patch. Even if she is pick or ban you need to wait until this nerf comes into effect in pro play before you can actually cast any judgement.

i cant move wtfJul 22, 20172 votes

Ikr? She needs BUFFS not more nerfs. She's weak, caitlyn players just tend to be a higher caliber player. Get over it.

OurLestradeJul 22, 20171 votes

Traps, range, high damage in lane. Simple as that really

Zone of EndlessJul 22, 20171 votes

because of the frustration of her trap in lane.

Vah NaborisJul 22, 20171 votes

her W needed changing not her fuckin attack speed increase per level, runes and items will make that minor change useless

Akali is SO HOTJul 22, 20171 votes

She can have a 40% winrate, but she'll still always be aids to play against as long as she has her traps

hhaavviikkJul 22, 20171 votes

because she is still obnoxious to lane against

rtbf221651412Jul 22, 20171 votes

Caitlyn I understand.

Orianna, not so much.

Sun Wu RyuumokuJul 22, 20171 votes

shes currently at 48% winrate and she lost half her playrate.

Still high playrate

KaRniVooL13Jul 23, 20172 votes

well how many adcs are there?

actual bot lane marksmen Ashe Caitlyn Draven Ezreal Jhin Jinx Kalista Lucian MissFortune KogMaw Sivir Tristana Twitch Varus Vayne Xayah

other "marksmen/adc" Corki Graves Kindred Quinn Teemo Urgot these are played primarily in other roles besides bot lane adc

so we are left with 12 based on these 12 lets list play rate Jhin 29.7% Caitlyn 21.3% Lucian 18.7% Tristana 16.4% Vayne 16.4% Twitch 12.0% Jinx 11.7% Xayah 11.3% Ashe 10.4% MissFortune 10.4% Draven 8.9% Ezreal 7.6% Kalista 6.5% Varus 6.3% KogMaw 4.4% Sivir 3.3%

and if we would say 12 adcs bot lane average play rate would be 8.33% all but 5 are picked above this rate. so with marksmen kinda having the least diversity and one of the smaller champion pools for the role is why we see such high pick rates of adcs cuz there simply not alot of options

but if we wanna look at win rates in order MissFortune Draven Twitch KogMaw Tristana Jhin Jinx Sivir Vayne Xayah Varus Ashe Kalista Caitlyn Lucian Ezreal

putting Caitlyn 14th in terms of win rate of adcs played bot lane