How do I win as yorick if my teammates just feedwhile I splitpush

d4rkshock·Apr 23, 2018·5 votes·4,019 views

Yorick is one of the games heaviest splitpusher. His hentire kit says splitpysh and duel. My problem in while I'm getting objectives, my team feeds and I lose. Yorick isn't the best teamfighter since he has no hard cc. He has a wall but it can be destroyed easliy because multiple people aa it. I need to decide how I'm going to play early. Not exactly the easiest thing to do if my team is even or nothing is happening. do I build zzrot and afk splitpush or do I skip it and teamfight. If my team feeds while I push, and I went zzro, there isn't much I can do. Anyways how do I win as yorick.

20 Comments

LateCustomerApr 23, 20184 votes

The same way Tryndamere (or any other split pusher) does it: You make it so you cannot be ignored and the enemy HAS to send one or two people to answer you before your team gets overrun.

Late For TeaApr 23, 20181 votes

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The same way Tryndamere (or any other split pusher) does it: You make it so you cannot be ignored and the enemy HAS to send one or two people to answer you before your team gets overrun.

Doesn't really work, because one of two things will happen:

Your team loses the 2/3vs4
Your team takes the opportunity to back and shop/take Krugs

DysnomiaApr 23, 20181 votes

I had the similar scenario yesterday, jungler and top laner were on me top while my team lost 3v4 fight mid.

trunoob413Apr 23, 20184 votes

He only has about 8 games ranked with yorick though and out of those 8 he his averages just over a 1 kda so I mean it's not like he's really ahead in his ranked games aways basically just "even" like the rest of his team/ behind alot probably

KhristophorosApr 23, 20183 votes

Regardless of which champ you are playing, if your team is feeding you will almost certainly lose.

Sometimes the teamcomp can actually win teamfights after losing 2 lanes but generally that doesn't happen especially in solo queue.

d4rkshockApr 23, 20181 votes

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Regardless of which champ you are playing, if your team is feeding you will almost certainly lose.

Sometimes the teamcomp can actually win teamfights after losing 2 lanes but generally that doesn't happen especially in solo queue.

What I mean is I see a paradox where yorick is one of the biggest splitpusher in the game. I probably has the fastest push out of all the splitpusher because he summons units to do his bidding and maiden inceases damage to towers but when I do that, my team just feeds. Top is completely gone with their inhib exposed and I still have t1 up top but then I look at my team and mid and bot t2 are gone and the enemy is killing everyone on my team.

OilegibtKoileApr 23, 20182 votes

don't go ZZ'rot as Yorick, it's useless on him. You can just go item 3078 item 3053 and you push towers faster without wasting money on a redundant item. Also Yorick can teamfight if you build him right and even with his "teamfight build" you can still splitpush. TF build could look like this item 3800 item 3026 item 3065 item 3111 / item 3047 Splitpushing is all about judging the current situation you can't just stay at one lane 24/7. Shove out one sidelane then roam mid. One guy may respond to the pushed wave at the sidelane and you are now in a 5v4 situation.

d4rkshockApr 23, 20181 votes

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don't go ZZ'rot as Yorick, it's useless on him. You can just go and you push towers faster without wasting money on a redundant item. Also Yorick can teamfight if you build him right and even with his "teamfight build" you can still splitpush. TF build could look like this / Splitpushing is all about judging the current situation you can't just stay at one lane 24/7. Shove out one sidelane then roam mid. One guy may respond to the pushed wave at the sidelane and you are now in a 5v4 situation.

Never said he couldn't teamfight. I just said he's not the best.

trunoob413Apr 23, 20181 votes

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Never said he couldn't teamfight. I just said he's not the best.

Maybe not the best exactly but honestly he teams fights like nasus which definitely isn't bad just go Q some people a couple times and they die. Probably best just running down their carries.

y0r1ckApr 23, 20182 votes

Nah usually it's easier to peel with yorick. It's almost impossible to reach their carries most of the time.

GhaelWindsApr 23, 20182 votes

Don't build zzrot. It doesn't make your splitpush any faster and if anything delays it. Go trinity and titanic hydra with demolish. If you have maiden you can practically burst down towers in the time it takes for demolish to pop up. While your allies are feeding just take the entire toplane and then rotate to bot.

Now if you take both of those inhibs and still can't end the game ya just shrug your sad shovel boi shoulders and go to the next game.

y0r1ckApr 23, 20181 votes

Don't go trinity titanic. Go trinity and Sterak's gage. Titanic has anti synergy with yorick. You need to get ghouls but titanic keeps you from doing so. And once you have ghouls titanic is redundant. Just go trinity, steraks, tank. Don't get zzrot. Try conqueror rune, see if you like that setup more than grasp. ALWAYS BAN JAX.

GhaelWindsApr 23, 20182 votes

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Don't go trinity titanic. Go trinity and Sterak's gage. Titanic has anti synergy with yorick. You need to get ghouls but titanic keeps you from doing so. And once you have ghouls titanic is redundant. Just go trinity, steraks, tank. Don't get zzrot. Try conqueror rune, see if you like that setup more than grasp. ALWAYS BAN JAX.

Titanic is by far one of the best items for yorick, it's an aa reset for towers, it's wave clear that he desperately needs to race to towers and it's damage and health source are immense for him.

As for the fact that it makes it hard for him to get ghouls: in fact it makes it easier. at level 11 it takes 4 ghouls to die for a regular grave to pop. So you kill one minion with Q, clear the rest with titanic and clear the final one with Q and you have 3 ghouls in what would take the steraks build longer.

Now conqueror is indeed a good rune for yorick but you should only take it against tanks. The burst from grasp is too good not to take against squishy fighters and conq has more pay off the longer a fight goes (aka tanks). Against Jax I take grasp and just kinda pray.

DysnomiaApr 23, 20181 votes

Solo que is a hell. There is not much you can do about it.

BeastHorusApr 23, 20181 votes

the low elo dilemma? Your teammates(and mine too) probably have no idea that you can win the game and all they have to do is stall. Perhaps telling them can work but i have the same issues lol

trunoob413Apr 23, 20181 votes

I'm confused how you going zzrot means you can't team fight? I'm not sure of your build on yorick but I imagine its something like trinity force/ steraks zzrot ect and its not like you need zzrot to split push he does that fine on his own even without it. Yoricks wall might not last long because people can destroy it but from my experience its plenty of time for your team mates to at least reliably land their hard cc if you mange to wall someone in.

You can blame your team if you want but I imagine at least sometimes wether you know it or not it's actually your fault for spliting, Gotta ask yourself if your team has good wave clear if so you can probably split since the enemies should never have minions to do much damage to tower without diving but if the enemy team has a team that can easily dive then they would see you spliting, dive your team under tower and kill all of them Bit harder if your team also has good disengage/ peel.

VeraskaApr 23, 20181 votes

You push along the scrim line with ur team or you extend to look for a flank/ tp flank

If youre getting the lane pressure to split as yorick you can flank their backlins if the enemy team groups mid or something

Just try to avoid grouping with ur team and then trudging through the enemy front line once the fight starts

Same strategy every other juggernaut uses

DragonSheaApr 23, 20181 votes

Just split push and don't give a fuck. The sad thing is that Yorick can't carry well unless his team can stall or bait a winning fight out of the enemy team. Yorick's weakness in a teamfight is his inability to quickly get to the main target and give them the shovel and his ghouls die to fast even if he tags and sent all 4 of them.

Another thing to consider is that smart players will try and gank you because they know an even or fed yorick and push like a motherfucker and that puts serious pressure on the enemy team.

CaptainChinstrapApr 23, 20181 votes

This is the conundrum that is baffling everyone this season. No matter how many times you spell it out for your teammates... no matter how many pings you them to back up... no matter how much you say "DO NOT FIGHT FOR 30 SECONDS"... they will fight instantly, die, lose game, and blame you.

Meep ManApr 23, 20181 votes

Yorick is big on split push, this is true. However, as much as I would love to be able to split push all game, I think there is definitely a line to where even Yorick will have to help his team in a fight if the enemy team is giant rolling deathball that can decide when fights happen without much chance for answer by your own team, like Malphite, Sejuani, and Ornn.