Are there any matchups where ahri actually loses hard?

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A hard counter means she's VERY likely to lose the lane because of a huge disadvantage. Ahri has none but it's not exclusive to ahri, most ranged champions have no hard counters because of the safety of their range, they can farm from distance if the MU is unfavorable. For Ahri this is especially true because of her huge safety.

Ahri is safe yes, but she is VERY likely to lose to Swain, Anivia, Fizz, Annie, etc. She's not perfect. You seem to just not play her at all, because if you know what you're doing with any of those champs, it can be a hard time for her.

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Cause if Ahri and Ao shin ever meet Ahri will out duel him as long as she stays in his circle

that's not how trades work in lane, Sol has a long range under W with fast orbs he can quickly win trades if the enemy stays in a long trade, he's one of the fastest champions in lane and can dodge skillshots easily

all of this while waveclearing and not using a lot of mana

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and she can easily dodge his ult, I am pretty sure

Sol will never use ult to trade

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Ao shin should never be able to 1 v 1 Ahri.

he doesn't care he will never fight ahri just try to trade and waveclear you're talking as if ahri has the power immediatly to kill Sol at lvl 6

lol

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Cause if Ahri and Ao shin ever meet Ahri will out duel him as long as she stays in his circle, and she can easily dodge his ult, I am pretty sure Ao shin should never be able to 1 v 1 Ahri.

Sol can do very well against Ahri. She can't outpush him, and his roaming is 10x better. If Ahri is inside his circle, he still builds too much health for her to do anything to him. This is a skill match up too though. Sol can win the game solely by pushing and outroaming.

Ahri will never be able to kill Sol until she has items, this entire thread is talking about laning phase and in laning phase you don't rush someone with all your spells as Ahri unless you're bad

so while taking this in account Sol can win trades if he plays well and of course push and roam

because YES Ahri can't clear waves with her Q, the damage is insanely low until she has AP and Mana to spam it