Sej's HP-Scaling kinda... feels like it's in the wrong ability.

SaltyToplaneGoat·Feb 15, 2016·9 votes·841 views

Let me explain: You usually build AD and AP to deal more damage, and HP to be thougher, heavier, more durable, whatever. It would make a LOT more sense thematically to have the HP scaling on her Q, as that is the skill she uses to crash into the enemy with all her weight. On the easily ignored W-dps (unless you play AP Sej but even then it barely tickles) it feels kind of wasted.

Also, can she get a REAL passive please? The one right now is almost completly unnoticeable...

12 Comments

Linna ExcelFeb 15, 20165 votes

Some things have to be done for balance reasons. Her W is her jungle clearing skill and as a jungle tank, she's going to be building HP. She needs it in her W. Realistically, she's not going to be building much AP and her W's cost gets better with rank.

IcyPepperFeb 15, 20161 votes

Couldn't they do to her W what they do with Shyvanna and other champions' abilities and just add bonus monster damage? o.O

SaltyToplaneGoatFeb 15, 20161 votes

On top of that the HP damage barely matters early on, and later on the base damage is enough for clearing...

Linna ExcelFeb 15, 20161 votes

Maybe, but I don't think she's supposed to be a power farmer.

SaltyToplaneGoatFeb 15, 20161 votes

She's supposed to be a ganker with passable clear - the base damage on W ist mostly enough to clear camps... the HP scaling is kinda unnecessary here...

Slamurai JackFeb 15, 20162 votes

Q used to do Max% HP damage too but was removed in the rework.

Healz PleaseFeb 15, 20161 votes

She use to have HP scaling on her Q instead. It was strong af in ARAM.

RetillinFeb 15, 20161 votes

Yeah, they didn't like the idea that what she maxed (then Q) had the passive. It was "too bursty".

MunchCrunchLunchFeb 15, 20161 votes

meanwhile Volibear DrMundo TahmKench

YumminesFeb 15, 20161 votes

It used to deal bonus damage against the target's max HP, but they removed it

SaltyToplaneGoatFeb 15, 20161 votes

Nah it was moved to the W basic attack hit if I remember correctly.

LankPantsFeb 15, 20161 votes

On the easily ignored W-dps (unless you play AP Sej but even then it barely tickles) it feels kind of wasted.

Definitely not true. Sej's W is the bulk of her damage. 12% of Sej's HP is usually quite a large number. Into the late game this ability does around 600 damage over its duration, closer to 800 if you do a dedicated HP build. With the ability potentially doping to a 4.2 second CD this is very heavy DPS for a tank. To give perspective on how high this DPS is it's the same as a 40% CDR Syndra's Q with around 300 AP while building no damage at all and that's just the DOT.

It would make a LOT more sense thematically to have the HP scaling on her Q, as that is the skill she uses to crash into the enemy with all her weight.

This isn't a good idea regardless of which HP scaling you're talking about. If you're talking about the scaling from Sej's HP it would lead to a very burst heavy champ as well as making your W a very weak spell.

If you're talking about the enemy HP moving this onto Sej's Q would be a nerf to her, since it's a smaller AOE with a longer CD.