Vaynes Bannrate rises every day

Drunken Yasuo·Sep 23, 2015·2 votes·484 views

good, good, let me never see this champion ever again some day...

10 Comments

StealthWardenSep 23, 20152 votes

Stupid vayne....i wish rito would at least make a counter for her. Somebody with like retarded range and a way to get away if she dashes into you..maybe even a trap like nid that roots or something so she can keep that distance and keep plunking vayne in her stupid face.

Legal WrightsSep 23, 20152 votes

Or maybe some kind of net. Nets are really cool, ya?

StealthWardenSep 23, 20151 votes

i dont know...sounds to fisherman'esque. I guess it could work thematically with the traps..they could be like a hunter or something with bear traps and nets and a long range rifle. Give um a crazy big old school hat? could work

SerevasSep 23, 20152 votes

I agree, if only Riot created some sort of super long range bully ADC, that had bear traps, the net, some sort of skillshot that does a bunch of damage and is a pass through skill shot. We should also make her ultimate some sort or long ranged ability, like a sniper shot or something to go with the fact that she has huge range.

Putting out those traps a lot would probably get a bit expensive in the long run though, we might want to consider mana cost reductions down the road, maybe even a reduction in their cooldown as well, we'd have to see what happens after release.

(Has it been made obvious enough yet or should I put Caitlyn on the case?)

StealthWardenSep 23, 20151 votes

well i mean, no, because that ruins the whole gag. but damage is done and now the fun is over Amumu

PennsSep 23, 20151 votes

Agreed, if this champs had traps that are possible to hit in the slightest, thatd be cool. Or if this champs skillshot didnt have a cast time to allow Vayne to dodge it with Q if shes good, thatd be awesome. A point and click ultimate would be really cool, but I think it wouldnt be all that useful if the projectile just gets eaten by her tank support. This champ probably shouldnt be one of the worst adcs, with like no steroid, no real burst, bad- medicore escapes,... either. Also, he really shouldnt have 49% win rate against Vayne when he finally comes out. .

SerevasSep 23, 20151 votes

I have a pretty good success rate at hitting traps, you just place them like traps instead of like Jinx Chompers and it becomes so much easier, you can also try to force them into said traps as well, you know, with proper positioning.

You can also make your success rate of hitting the skillshot increase by waiting until Vayne uses Q to farm, which happens constantly.

I don't have much of an answer for hte point and click ultimate except to only use it at the proper time instead of throwing it out all willy nilly.

http://champion.gg/champion/Caitlyn

Her win rate right now is 51% average, only going down to 49.88% at the 40+ minute mark of a game. This is naturally where Vayne is her strongest as well.

PennsSep 23, 20151 votes

Well but all your points are based around Cait being way better than Vayne, so I dont really count that as a counter at all.

http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=bottom-matchup&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=ranked It says Vayne has 51% win rate every game she plays against Cait. She also has far over 50% win rate against any other adc except from Draven and Jinx.

SerevasSep 23, 20151 votes

My points aren't about Cait being better than Vayne so much as Cait having a bunch of tools to deal with Vayne if utilized properly. The win rates are largely inflated due to such a large percentage of games going straight to late game. You see the spike looking at Champion.gg as soon as her games hit 35+ minutes her win rate spikes by a substantial chunk.

If they showed a win rate of Cait v Vayne in the earlier ending games say no more than 35 minutes I think we'd see a bit of a swap in Vayne's win % against Caitlyn. That's just my theory though.

The Yetii RiderSep 23, 20151 votes

The problem is that you are working in a vacuum here. Caitlyn has to deal with another champion to get to Vayne, one that can eat her Qs to lower damage, step on her traps when the wave is pushed, block her ultimate and heal Vayne with Relic Shield.

Then I.E. Is just a flat worse item to rush than BoRK.