SYLAS and unnecessary mechanics in general

HàrrowR··7 votes·3,260 views

Okay seriously this champ is disgusting right now, is there a reason he has to heal for 1500 late game every 2 seconds? No, like seriously is there a reason, cause im getting tired of getting him down to 100hp so he can heal to full in a second.

I've been saying this before and im gonna say it a milion times, there is so many unnecessary mechanics on new gen champions that it feels like shit playing anything that isn't overloaded as shit.

I mean Sylas has two dashes, a knockup and a busted heal on ONE ability, that's someone's entire kit and he has it in just one ability, why does he need a shield on top of that too? Why does he have this god forsaken ultimate that can make him completely broken in a certain matchup, i just played Kayle vs him and wow, if everything wasnt enough now he has my invul too, imagine him taking Veigar R, yey now he has a 1500 dmg point and click ability while the rest of his kit can one shot everyone too.

Does Riot not understand that if you give a champ 3x the mechanics of a regular champ that he will have 10x as many options in any given situation, whether its fighting, running away or surviving a bad engagement.

I mean this doesn't necessarily always apply to newer champs, every time i play Ashe i get into this situations where i think to myself, oh if i played Vayne i'd survive that cause i could Q out of the way and then E the enemy into a wall, or trying to kill a beefy target and failing i'd realize i would have killed him in 2 seconds with Vayne, she can have true damage that doubles with Guinsoo and Ashe has to stack 4 autos just to get off her steroids that also costs mana, while guess what, Tristana has a 110% AS steroid that's instant cast and COSTS 0 MANA .

Now dont get me wrong i main Vayne and i love Tristana im just making fair observations, people don't realize how many unnecessary mechanics are on champions and eat it cause hey its just the way it is, and it goes both ways too, sometimes you have this stupid conditions to meet just to deal damage while others get to do more of it freely.

There's tons of examples of unnecessary mechanics, like there's no reason for Tristana procing E at max stacks to reset her jump but it does cause why not, there's no master plan behind it it just is, there's no reason for Sylas to have a shield in his kit but he does cause why not, i mean Riot is catching up to it somewhat, removing Akali Q heal and Irelia R disarm proves that these were just unnecessary mechanics added to the champs cause reasons.

There's at least 50 champs in this game that either have way too much or way too little mechanics and Riot needs to streamline their game by either stripping mechanics from champs or adding it to those that need it, cause im sick and tired of playing anything that doesn't have stealth,heal,dash,jump,true damage, windwall or any bs mechanic that just makes the champ better in almost any way and not playing that champ literally puts you at a disadvantage

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Durzaka4 votes

mean Sylas has two dashes, a knockup and a busted heal on ONE ability, that's someone's entire kit and he has it in just one ability, why does he need a shield on top of that too?

Dude, at least read the champions abilities before you start bitching. Thats 2 separate abilities youve just described. Plenty of champions have those things across 2 abilities.

Ragnaveil1 votes

Irelia has a dash and heal on one spell that also resets, and a long stun on a different ability. But apparently people find Sylas more aids than that. At least his dash isn't point click people.

Durzaka1 votes

I mean... one of his dashes is point and click.

But I get where you are coming from

Infernape3 votes

Because Riot made an AP fighter when the itemisation for the class does not exist. Meddler himself admitted that that is the reason why Sylas has so much in built survivability (his shield/heal).

Riot should've iceboxed him until they introduced and balanced out the itemisation for said class and potential abuse cases.

HàrrowR1 votes

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Because Riot made an AP fighter when the itemisation for the class does not exist. Meddler himself admitted that that is the reason why Sylas has so much in built survivability (his shield/heal).

Riot should've iceboxed him until they introduced and balanced out the itemisation for said class and potential abuse cases.

That's just idiotic from their part, if there's anything i realized playing this game its that its always kit>items.

I dont care how much arpen you have you're never going to be a better at killing a tank then Vayne, or how much item 3009 ms you stack you'll never escape as good as Tristana or Ezreal, that's why making overloaded kits is 100 times worse than overloaded items and making an overloaded champ cause there's no right itemization for him is just stupid

Titanium702 votes

What are you talking about...

Make Sylas AD and he's instantly on the most broken champions in the entire game! SOLEY due to Itemization!

Sylas desperately needs this Kit. Even with all those tools he still is weak! He has no way of fighting when behind and drops like a stone in lategame!

HàrrowR1 votes

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What are you talking about...

Make Sylas AD and he's instantly on the most broken champions in the entire game! SOLEY due to Itemization!

Sylas desperately needs this Kit. Even with all those tools he still is weak! He has no way of fighting when behind and drops like a stone in lategame!

He's broken cause he then has a broken kit plus good itemization? im not sure what youre not understanding, there's things that a kit can do that items can't like Yasuo W potentially blocking 10 000 dmg, or the surviveability of having a jump/dash/stealth mechanic in your kit, unless they add an item that can stealth you then there's no item in the game that can replicate this surviveability you would get from an ability.

If sylas was AD he wouldnt then need so much healing and shielding probably, meaning his kit is overloaded and busted cause his itemization is bad

Jerry SeinfeId2 votes

If sylas was AD he wouldnt then need so much healing and shielding probably, meaning his kit is overloaded and busted cause his itemization is bad.

yes, which is why he has those things and isn't AD.

VolatileAkali2 votes

Akali heal was there before and should stay, no matter what.

VonToothskie1 votes

yeah some of the new champs just make no sense mechanically within the existing game state. the game has a lot going on at times, to the point that veteran players like myself will have trouble tracking whats happening in teamfights. When you add in invisibility and shape shifting and triple effect abilities that are essentially inescapable... it just degenerates from a game of skill to a game where certain abilities win by default.
I genuinely cant recommend this game to new players anymore. the game design is broken and creates toxicity by its very nature. its a real shame

boricCentaur11 votes

Sylas needs most of his kit maybe not his q that ability is not great but his healing and shield is necessary he is a fighter and also all you did was fucking list his kit that is not a reason that is a list if you think he is overloaded then you don't understand what overload. He q bad His w is a dash to someone with low damage and high healing. His e is a very small dash and you dash to the target and knockup them up if you lane that skill shot and it also doesn't do a lot of damage His ult is bad to good depending on the team. If any of that sounds overloaded then maybe you actually don't know what it means and should look it up.

But this coming from someone who think veigar's r can on shot when it can't.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Akali who was a sustain assassin since 2010 gets her heal removed, but Sylas needs his heal even though he can spam it and still can delete carries. Has the most powerful ult in the game too, but nooo he NEEDS his ult.

boricCentaur11 votes

Akali is a assassin and sylas is a bruiser you can't compare the two they do two different things bruisers need to be able to say in fights assassins don't need that. The rest of your post since makes no sense and sounds like you have never seen a sylas. One: he can't spam his w it has a 12 second cooldown, yeah it is long but it is not short. Two: he can't delete carries most his abilities have low to ok ap ratios the only one that has a high ratio is his q so if he is one shotting champion it is because he is very fed not because of the champion. Three: he does not the most powerful ult by any means in fact he will most of the time have a weaker version of the ult he is coping since a lot ults in league work with the champion and when he uses a ult he can't use that ult for double its cooldown. Also wtf yes he needs a ult every champion has a ult why would he be any different???

VolatileAkali1 votes

The problem is, most of the time if your against a sylas main, he is fed, just because the champ is so fucking good.

Heal and triple dash is the identity of Akali since the inception of LoL, yet Riot removed it. Then new champions like Sylas have stronger heals, like way stronger heals, yet no one bats an eye. Shitty ass community.

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