Every single source of possible aoe sustain in items has that (deaths dance, gunblade, etc)
Why did they think conqueror would be ok without it? Its literally the only issue with the rune, in fact you could even increase its AD if you did that since that would cut pretty much all of the abuse being done with it now.
Moody P1 votesBecause conqueror healing only works against champions and none of its best users have significant and massive AOE as their primary damage
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Because conqueror healing only works against champions and none of its best users have significant and massive AOE as their primary damage
Every AA bruiser builds tiamat (ok not every but most of them), and then theres a few like riven who actually has aoe spells.
Healing for 400% of the conqueror heal when you hit a QW on riven or you aa someone as a tiamat bruiser in a team fight instead of 133% is a huge deal.
Moody P2 votesRiven AOE is not especially large, I meant. Outside of her ultimate most of her AOE actually getting used like AOE requires fighting in the jungle or her flashing on to people. From my experience, at least.
IMO the real problem with conqueror and the disparity between fighters is the runes deceptive exclusivity; a lot of fighters either cannot stack the rune quickly at all (Illaoi, Garen) or only fully stack it after using their full rotation and not having much else to follow up with (Renekton). Its the fighters who stack it fast and THEN can keep it going that now hold such an absurd advantage over everyone else.
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Riven AOE is not especially large, I meant. Outside of her ultimate most of her AOE actually getting used like AOE requires fighting in the jungle or her flashing on to people. From my experience, at least.
IMO the real problem with conqueror and the disparity between fighters is the runes deceptive exclusivity; a lot of fighters either cannot stack the rune quickly at all (Illaoi, Garen) or only fully stack it after using their full rotation and not having much else to follow up with (Renekton). Its the fighters who stack it fast and THEN can keep it going that now hold such an absurd advantage over everyone else.
The only way i could see to fix it would be making it 10 stacks but make melee AAs give 2 stacks each.
So spells still help it stack up but not that much faster, would probably also need to buff the effect at max stacks since its going to be harder overall to stack.
The thigh guy1 votesOr maybe just realize that not everything in this game needs true damage on top of the ludacris amount of pen.
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Or maybe just realize that not everything in this game needs true damage on top of the ludacris amount of pen.
Bruisers auto lose to tanks without some innate arpen or true damage.
Its the reason why conqueror was even created in the first place, early tank items have no counterplay for the same gold as a bruiser, what are you going to do to counter a 1100 tabi or 1000 bramble rush as a bruiser? Build a 1450 gold lw that does nothing early? Lmao.
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Anime Fizz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YzJxmmOi,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-27T01:41:13.195+0000)
Bruisers auto lose to tanks without some innate arpen or true damage.
Its the reason why conqueror was even created in the first place, early tank items have no counterplay for the same gold as a bruiser, what are you going to do to counter a 1100 tabi or 1000 bramble rush as a bruiser? Build a 1450 gold lw that does nothing early? Lmao.
Accept that you outscale tanks? Tanks have to accept that damage outscales them. An armor tank loses most fights as soon as a black cleaver is built. A mr tank loses 40% of his resistances as soon as a void staff is build. Conquerer is and never was needed. Bruiser mains like hashinshin just cried that they didn’t auto win from level 1-18 and had to wait til 7-8 to auto win.