Ryze nerfs on PBE?

Junkο··6 votes·912 views

Mana scalling on W and E removed. Why? This will make 2 things happen:

  1. Ryze will be forced to build generic APC build, and deal 0 damage because most of his damage was from mana scallings
  2. He won't be tanky anymore, since items that give tankiness and CDR won't be viable on him anymore.

Tl;dr Ryze will be useless if the changes go live

12 Comments

Tkerst8 votes

Good.

Yixu6 votes

Maybe Im just crazy but..

"He wont be a tank anymore" kinda sums up Ryzes whole problem in the first place.

(Hes a massive scaling hyper carrry with an easy kit and great utility that functions as a TANKY bruiser.) (And how many other mages are debuffing your ADC with frozen heart and actually getting MORE damage by building it?)

Meserion3 votes

Um he was fine... he was a rare breed and because of his item reliance he can be shutdown early on. Also his range is not spectacular; this nerf kills Ryze as a champion, they might as well delete him.

OyddAWqJ5r2 votes

Pfft. He deals too much damage right now with near infinite resources to do so given mana ratios. He will still need to build mana to be able to cast at all so his build won't change much in general but instead he will have to be like everyone else and build damage to do damage. Idk where you pulled the "He won't be able to build tanky CDR items anymore" thing from. Swain has no mana ratios but builds Frozen Heart and Tear of the Goddess all the time. Ryze will still have mana afterall.

jjookkeerr3 votes

Pfft. He deals too much damage right now with near infinite resources to do so given mana ratios. He will still need to build mana to be able to cast at all so his build won't change much in general but instead he will have to be like everyone else and build damage to do damage. Idk where you pulled the "He won't be able to build tanky CDR items anymore" thing from. Swain has no mana ratios but builds Frozen Heart and Tear of the Goddess all the time. Ryze will still have mana afterall.

if you build frozen heart on swain i'm afraid you have some kind of mental problem

Salidfingers2 votes

From what i see they are facing an AD Heavy team. It would explain why he built Frozen heart and maybe not as a core item

OyddAWqJ5r2 votes

Viable. Not core. A dead Ryze is a useless Ryze.

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

Did anyone actually think that Ryze was OP in the first place?

slim charles1 votes

they will most likely compensate somehow. they did it for trist.

Salidfingers1 votes

LOL. More food for me

wolfax1 votes

I think these changes are only a part of what's happening to him. They sound like incomplete changes.

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