Zilean; Passive Concept

Stacona·Aug 10, 2015·1 votes·416 views

This post is to give an idea for a new Zilean passive, especially one that feels better for the Zilean player.

Timework (Passive): Passive Ranks: @levels 1/6/11/16; Radius: 350 units Zilean's basic attacks deal 10(+5 per level)(+15%AP) bonus magic damage on-hit. Every 3rd basic attack on the same unit within 5 seconds will triple this bonus magic damage to and around the unit while granting Zilean 30 bonus experience.

Even if you think this is not super original it is a passive that works for a time mage, and works for a utility mage. This is a place to give your thoughts of what you would like to see for a passive replacement.

EDIT: Okay so made a change, no longer has a decaying slow, the AP ratio is reduced and base damage increased for the on-hit bonus magic damage and grants 30 bonus experience instead of a decaying slow for every 3rd basic attack on the same unit.

13 Comments

Orange CaramelAug 10, 20151 votes

take his current passive reduce the ammount of xp it gives make it global

StaconaAug 10, 20151 votes

that will not happen, global passives are permanently removed from the game for a reason; also that would make zilean feel worse playing as him

Prospector PeteAug 10, 20151 votes

Seems a bit OP because with 3 auto attacks he can deal 100% of his AP in damage. I'd just go Nashor's tooth and Runaan's hurricane and other AP items.

CrettAug 10, 20151 votes

maybe he should have a passive that interacts with the rest of his kit, or gives him something to do when he isn't casting. maybe what you have now, but without the slow, i think the slow is a bit redundant considering his near perma slow on E.

StaconaAug 10, 20151 votes

i was thinking something that gives him some kind of utility mage aspect and some reliable damage since his bombs are a skill shot so on-hit magic damage and a slow is a utility aspect- but yea perhaps the slow is not needed at all, maybe on-hit flat exp or something instead of the slow on top of bonus magic damage on-hit

PeachsPropertyAug 10, 20151 votes

that would be broken 100%. it would force nashoors and other items that give atk speed and ap.

StaconaAug 10, 20151 votes

you would only go nashor's tooth, and it be no where near broken regardless... but people do not build nashor's tooth on orianna or lulu now so your fears are not there

PeachsPropertyAug 10, 20151 votes

Zilean's basic attacks deal 10(+5 per level)(+15%AP) bonus magic damage on-hit. Every 3rd basic attack on the same unit within 5 seconds will triple this bonus magic damage to and around the unit while granting Zilean 30 bonus experience.

explain how this wouldnt be broken?

5 x 17 =85 + 10 =95 every hit every 3rd hit would deal 95 x 3 = 285 just from auto attacking them. it is AoE damage.

this doesnt take into account any AP they have.

or the damage from his bombs or the stun(which would allow for easy auto attacking)

he is a support mage. nashoors + hurricane = massively OP for a support mage like Zilean from just AA's

StaconaAug 10, 20151 votes

and yet you don't see these builds on orianna or lulu who will deal more damage on-hit than this--- its every 3rd attack on the same unit, not every 3rd attack so hurricane will not work--- i don't see the problem with nashor's tooth it is an ap item on an ap champion

PeachsPropertyAug 10, 20151 votes

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and yet you don't see these builds on orianna or lulu who will deal more damage on-hit than this--- its every 3rd attack on the same unit, not every 3rd attack so hurricane will not work--- i don't see the problem with nashor's tooth it is an ap item on an ap champion

he has it worded as an on-hit effect. hurricane applies on-hit effects on 2 additional targets v_v.

StaconaAug 10, 20151 votes

the 3rd hit is a unique effect and only applies to your main target

NekusenAug 10, 20151 votes

make it so every time he cast a spell, his and allied nearby champs get -1.0 sec cooldown on their abilities and nearby enemies +0.75 cooldown on theirs

StaconaAug 10, 20151 votes

Riot will never implement a cooldown increasing effect - also that would just take away Rewind, plus he has Rewind so it does not make him feel any better about his passive, if anything worse