Recent buffs to top laners

The Cane Master·Jul 3, 2016·3 votes·760 views

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Ok, in 6.13 (live) patch there were buffs to Gnar. Now on PBE there are buffs to Fiora and Poppy. While they were underplayed, how about Riot buff those top laners that haven't seen pro play even longer than these ones? That would mean that they are rotating only a certain portion of champions in meta, while not doing anything for those who are EVEN LESS VIABLE? What comes to my mind are Nasus and Dr. Mundo, but I'm certain that's only from top of my head and that there are many others who could appreciate some love from Riot balance team.

18 Comments

MimyJul 3, 20161 votes

I'm sorry but, I'm a little happy Susan isn't meta, he's a little annoying to deal with on the enemy team.

I'm bot lane so I can't control whether he get's fed or not in the first 10 minutes. Then goes to either split push or become the God of the underworld Anubis and carries his team in the fights to victory.

The Cane MasterJul 3, 20163 votes

What makes you think that he's more scary than Fiora or Poppy (now buffed)? You can at least stack armor against Nasus, while there are no counters to Fiora since true damage. Poppy is the tankiest shit alive, while providing unmatched hard cc, utility and damage to the team. Don't think that it's harder to deal with Nasus than any other top laner, because if it was, he would be in meta for at least a week since long gone season 3 nerfs.

MimyJul 3, 20162 votes

Personally I just find Nasus a little more annoying to deal with.

That's just my opinion.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

The Cane MasterJul 3, 20161 votes

Probably because he doesn't require any mechanics, unlike mentioned Fiora and Poppy. But in high elo (let's say plat+), most of the people opt to play what's better, even if it requires more skill, cuz they are good enough to do so.

RalanrJul 3, 20161 votes

"Unmatched hard CC"

Provided there are walls around. Unless you count her ult, which renders people untargetable.

Critmaster GarenJul 3, 20164 votes

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I'm bot lane so I can't control whether he get's fed or not in the first 10 minutes.

oh wow. welcome to the fucking life of a top laner, where games are lost at 10 minutes with barely anything you can do because you dont have much influence on what happens in bot and mid lane.

this is how we feel almost every game.

MimyJul 3, 20162 votes

Uhm that's almost every lane. Sometimes it don't matter how fed bot lane can get, if Top and jungle feeds their top and jungle.

How do you think we feel when botlane loses 1 fight and jungle refuses to gank because their adc is 2/0 Freely pushing botlane because jungler is babysitting TOP LANE. Because all of the Bullshit champions that can build tank and one shot a squishy are up there.

Garen, walk to the back line and press R more...

WELCOME TO THE LIFE OF AN ADC!

Hell I'd rather deal with Susan than a fed Vladimir building item 3504 item 3089

GW Won't do SHIT to that. When you're an ADC with item 3033 Vlad is at 40% health and heals it ALL back with 1 Q HAVING GW ON HIM!

Makes you wanna cry.

Honestly all champions are annoying when they're fed.

Critmaster GarenJul 3, 20161 votes

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Uhm that's almost every lane.

no its not. especially jungle and mid have a huge impact on the whole map. and with bot lane its usually 2 and 3 people getting fed on the team.

if youre not playing a roam focused champion like shen or someone who can really hard carry a game when he wins top lane, then top will usually have the least impact as a whole.

even if you do pick a champion who gets fed and can hard carry, you might still face 2 or 3 fed people on the enemy team who can do the same.

MimyJul 3, 20161 votes

In most of my games it's not the case..

It's either the ADC or the Top laner. Very few times do I see mids carry and if they are it's someone like..

Zed Ahri Malzahar Swain Vladimir (Goes mid but in my mind still a top laner.)

But most of the time.. Fiora Darius Garen Olaf Shaco Hecarim Irelia Nasus MonkeyKing

are carrying the game...

Critmaster GarenJul 3, 20161 votes

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In most of my games it's not the case..

It's either the ADC or the Top laner. Very few times do I see mids carry and if they are it's someone like..

(Goes mid but in my mind still a top laner.)

But most of the time..

are carrying the game...

is it actually most games, or is it the games you remember the most?

also, no offense dude. youre sitting in bronze. doesnt really suprise that those guys carry down there. higher up, its usually bot and mid lane that wins games early, and top lane mostly tags along.

its possible to make some good plays and tp ganks (even though tp got nerfed), but you mostly dont have an impact on the first 15 mnutes, and games can often get decided in that timeframe.

MimyJul 3, 20161 votes

The 15 minute thing is the same thing in bronze sometimes...

Yea I kinda get that, reasons why I stopped playing top. You think Darius has no impact, my top lane champions really don't have a lot of impact.

Teemo Not a lot he can do besides be annoying. going him though you really lose out on what could be a tank or a juggarnaut.. and a lot of CC? Sure he has shrooms but item 3364 makes those null and void is people are smart enough to build it.

Im trying to learn ADC but ADC is annoying because everyone and their mother can nearly one shot you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8RIcmd_eH4

So fun.. looking at a gray screen.

Maybe I should learn mid...

Not touching jungle. NOPE.

ErockandrollJul 3, 20161 votes

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no its not. especially jungle and mid have a huge impact on the whole map. and with bot lane its usually 2 and 3 people getting fed on the team.

if youre not playing a roam focused champion like shen or someone who can really hard carry a game when he wins top lane, then top will usually have the least impact as a whole.

even if you do pick a champion who gets fed and can hard carry, you might still face 2 or 3 fed people on the enemy team who can do the same.

Honestly, the Reciprocal argument to "I can't impact the team because I'm in an island called top lane" is "I have more Gold and XP because I'm in an Island called top lane"

I have noticed that Top lane has significantly more impact in a split push meta. Especially when duelists are favored. Because top lane will farm for a lot longer, You will end up with the XP advantage. and if your a duelist, basically no one can actually solo you.

This isn't happening in the LCS as of late, due to how much the lane swap is favored. Which actually puts the top laner behind, and turns midlane into the island. But since lane swaps arn't common in yoloQ, you need to consider the benefits, (not just the drawbacks) of being on an island.)

Meep ManJul 3, 20161 votes

While Dr. Mundo hasn't been in LCS recntly, he dominated for nearly all of Season 5. He's one of those champions that is only really played in the LCS when Tanks are REALLY dominating the scene, which is why some see him as an indicator for when Tanks are too strong. Whether that's a problem or not is another story, but he HAS been in LCS.

The Cane MasterJul 3, 20162 votes

Whether that's a problem or not is another story, but he HAS been in LCS.

While he has been, so were Poppy and Fiora at the same time, even longer. So why are these being buffed back to the meta, but not Dr. Mundo? Not to mention that there is 800g worth of item that completely destroys Dr. Mundo's viability - Executioner's Calling. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Executioner's_Calling

Meep ManJul 3, 20161 votes

Another point worth making is Dr. Mundo isn't really in need of buffs. Nasus is another story, but I don't think Mundo needs buffs. He is decently strong right now. Plus, I think I remember Riot saying somewhere they plan to rework Mundo due to his very binary nature as far as Grievous Wounds go since it's currently like: "You buy GW, his entire identity is shut down. You don't and he is one of the hardest to kill champions to ever exist."