STOP ASKING FOR CASS BUFFS

King of Mongoose·Dec 24, 2015·3 votes·472 views

She is a very strong champion and she doesn't need buffs

Just because you cant itemize correctly to use her efficiently doesn't mean CASS is bad

10 Comments

QuephaDec 24, 20154 votes

Do you know how to read? People don't want buffs, they want a rework. Riot failed on the last one and she sucks to play as. They said so when the rework was rushed out and they're still saying it now.

King of MongooseDec 24, 20151 votes

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Do you know how to read? People don't want buffs, they want a rework. Riot failed on the last one and she sucks to play as. They said so when the rework was rushed out and they're still saying it now.

No she's strong and you kids need to stop asking for buffs and reworks for strong champuons

QuephaDec 24, 20154 votes

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No she's strong and you kids need to stop asking for buffs and reworks for strong champuons

Whether or not she's strong is beside the point. Yorick is considered quite strong at certain things but is also in desperate need of a rework.

NogrimDec 24, 20151 votes

says who? frankly i love yorick as is.

QuephaDec 24, 20153 votes

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says who? frankly i love yorick as is.

Riot. I'm sorry to say this but they've had him pegged for "Poppy tier" for years now, i.e. they don't want to buff him and if he starts to become popular in games they will nerf him immediately with prejudice. All his abilities are melee range and targeted, you have no real control over his summons which is very disappointing for people wanting to play a pet-based champ. He just sort of sits and auto-wins his lane, yet still loses the game because he has pretty much nothing to contribute to a teamfight except his ult.

I don't even think Riot wants to mess with him without completely redoing his kit because they rushed his release and his code was notoriously buggy, trying to make adjustments to his abilities may be very difficult to do without breaking him.

NogrimDec 30, 20151 votes

okay so thats not really true his Q is melee range, free/stacking sheen essentially, his w is a ranged aoe slow, and the E is life steal for days.

the summons are fairly simple ai but it works differently for each. your Q and E will attack what ever they are cast on, then go after any enemy champ in range. the W goes for the closest enemy champ right away. all three persist for i think its around 5 seconds or until their HP runs out

abilities wise i would leave them as they are and tweak them via their visual effects. things that more clearly show their roles and some sort of target change visual change

art wise i love his style/concept but it really looks weak, and out of date when you put it next to some of the other shadow isles characters since.

there are things that need to make how his "passive" works more obvious something like showing how much bonus hp/AD they are gaining from you, and how much armour you are gaining from them would be a great start that would make him a lot easier to understand for new comers.

i think his kit is very very strong and while he is a melee his strength is being able to bully other high burst melee tops like riven (at least this is where i shine with him) because of how their AI works you can almost completely push some of those nasty melee tops out of XP range and stall their burst quite awhile. i have had rivens give up on the lane and jungle because they kept being pushed back and interrupted by the W's slow minion.

IF there really is a consensus on buffing him i would agree they need to be careful or they risk making him way to strong.

I'd say do something with the passive or his ult.

for the Q/W/E, allowing more than one of each to be spawned at a time when you have high CDR would help him late game with out making him too strong early. right now the if you E before the duration is out, it kills it and just summons a new one.
the passive getting the aforementioned AD/HP for the minions and maybe a better armour grant per active minion? (i dont think people even realize he gets a chunk of extra armour for every summon that is out or just how much damage they gain from you)
ult wise i see very very few yoricks use it well and even i will avoid even putting point into it until i have to getting E or W maxed imho is a higher priority.

i usually will cast it on my Adc early in the fight and then use it like a really high DPS tibbers and/or a diversion since the enemy team cant tell its a clone, but the whole revive the killed ally thing really isnt all that useful in most team fights versus a good enemy because they just die again when it wears off so all it really does is stall their counter push(which i guess is good)

i just dont know what else i would replace it with. maybe something that super charges the minions? something sort of like hiemers? but even that would likely be too much

QuephaDec 30, 20151 votes

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i think his kit is very very strong and while he is a melee his strength is being able to bully other high burst melee tops like riven (at least this is where i shine with him) because of how their AI works you can almost completely push some of those nasty melee tops out of XP range and stall their burst quite awhile. i have had rivens give up on the lane and jungle because they kept being pushed back and interrupted by the W's slow minion.

A "strong" kit is a bad kit. Kits need advantages and disadvantages and "he's a melee champ that wins against all other melee champs" isn't a niche and is simply bad for the game. That's the essence of the "bruiser problem" where riot releases a fighter champ who's thing is that they're really good in melee (mundo, garen, udyr, xin zhao, volibear, irelia, olaf, yorick, trundle, J4, riven, wukong, shyvana, darius, aatrox...) so all the other fighter champs who are really good in melee just suck because this new champ does what they do better (or the new champ is hated because they aren't good at what they do) and buffing/nerfing just ends up with a slightly different cycle of 3-6 good champs in top lane.

Mecha MaIphiteDec 24, 20151 votes

Yorick? Is that a new champ?

HahahahyenaDec 24, 20153 votes

Cass's stats on champion.gg: Win Rate 46.6% Play Rate 1.29% Yeah she's 'real strong'

Maximum MordeDec 24, 20151 votes

Cass cant be buffed cause scripters too strongk. They either gotta rework her so scripting doesn't give such a huge benefit, or leave her in the dumpster.