I'll add this as well.... Just because you had a relatively ok score line and some farm.. doesn't mean you did anything useful in the game.
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I'll add this as well.... Just because you had a relatively ok score line and some farm.. doesn't mean you did anything useful in the game.
When the feed already starts at 5 minutes, which it does every single game, there's not much I can do to make an impact tbh. In fact, I did nothing useful because I couldn't due to the enemy team already being fed. I've lost 3 placements now because the team started feeding within the first minute of laning. What can I do when the first tower already falls a couple of minutes in and they come mid to tower dive?
Your team fed at 5 minutes? THE GOLD LEAD WAS LESS THAN 1.5K at 13 minutes into the GAME.
This an attitude and skill problem not a teammate problem
When the feed already starts at 5 minutes, which it does every single game, there's not much I can do to make an impact tbh. In fact, I did nothing useful because I couldn't due to the enemy team already being fed. I've lost 3 placements now because the team started feeding within the first minute of laning. What can I do when the first tower already falls a couple of minutes in and they come mid to tower dive?
And every game, every single game you ever play this happens.
Well, except for this game, right?
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And every game, every single game you ever play this happens.
Well, except for this game, right?
Dang you guys all toxic for no reason. Get out of the thread m8 if you're not here to provide advice.
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Your team fed at 5 minutes? THE GOLD LEAD WAS LESS THAN 1.5K at 13 minutes into the GAME.
This an attitude and skill problem not a teammate problem
It is a teammate problem. Suck it up bigboi. I'd like to see you carry these games.
Dang you guys all toxic for no reason. Get out of the thread m8 if you're not here to provide advice.
It is a teammate problem. Suck it up bigboi. I'd like to see you carry these games.
We are providing advice.
The advice is "Stop trying to bullshit us." because it's rude to us, "toxic" if you want, and further it doesn't help you.
It's doesn't help you to pretend you do everything right and every single game was out of control and you had no part in the outcome. Especially, when you provide a link to game that demonstrates that all four things you listed that "happen every game" do not actually happen every game.
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We are providing advice.
The advice is "Stop trying to bullshit us." because it's rude to us, "toxic" if you want, and further it doesn't help you.
It's doesn't help you to pretend you do everything right and every single game was out of control and you had no part in the outcome. Especially, when you provide a link to game that demonstrates that all four things you listed that "happen every game" do not actually happen every game.
Check my 10 placements matches bro, look at my teammates - they're all feeders. Pretty much 9/10 times they have a negative score. They hard feed from early on and eventually I can't keep my lane when people start roaming. I won only 3 out of 10 games, and I was hard carrying every single one of those wins. Look at my match history. Seriously, I even got placed in bronze 3 lol.
This game man. Either the MMR system is straight out broken, because these games are already lost 10 minutes in (it's not even close), or I've been insanely unlucky.
Love this gem right here, check out the Kat and Gnar. http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2966040499/223756830?tab=overview
Because it doesn't happen every game
honestly you didn't do so hot either.
You don't get teams like that every game, so don't be dramatic.
You should be focusing on what you are doing wrong and how you can improve your own gameplay, because at the end of the day that is the only thing you will ever have control over in this game. The more you worry and complain about your team, the less time you spend trying to improve to make the next match a victory.
From your match history, you should really be focusing on things like improving CS and making plays. It looks like you main Orianna mid. Her setup potential for surprise ganks is top tier.
Until you are playing perfectly, don't criticize your team for a loss. There's several games in your history where you fed as well.
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You don't get teams like that every game, so don't be dramatic.
You should be focusing on what you are doing wrong and how you can improve your own gameplay, because at the end of the day that is the only thing you will ever have control over in this game. The more you worry and complain about your team, the less time you spend trying to improve to make the next match a victory.
From your match history, you should really be focusing on things like improving CS and making plays. It looks like you main Orianna mid. Her setup potential for surprise ganks is top tier.
Until you are playing perfectly, don't criticize your team for a loss. There's several games in your history where you fed as well.
Thanks bro, appreciate the advice. There's never really an excuse for feeding, but to be fair, I haven't died so much because I lose lane or that kind of thing, more has to do with the team being behind and going for fights they can't win. For example, I went bot lvl 7 with a lux game I just played, picked up the first blood, Quinn got an assist. Nice start of the game. However, the moment Quinn is back to lane she starts feeding even with the small gold advantage she just got. Then we had this Talon never being in his lane, giving away first and second tower for free, 101cs 30min game.
Basically my problem is that even if the team gets an advantage, they mostly throw it. I'm not saying I don't belong to this elo, but I don't understand how you can carry games like the above.
It's simple: You can't carry every game.
Everyone has good and bad games, that's just how it goes. It's easy to look at a teammate who is performing poorly and say "This guy is complete trash.. might be the worst player I've ever seen." Chances are, he isn't.. and is just having a bad game. Like I said before, you have them too. Everyone does. Sometimes you get so stomped in lane that you become incredibly useless, especially on a champ like Talon.
The only thing you can do is try to assess where priority should be for your team. In a team composition of Talon top, Orianna mid, and Quinn bottom, it's extremely less important for you to carry than it is for your other lanes. An Orianna who is behind still has a metric fuck ton of utility to bring to a team fight, and can waveclear and siege exceptionally well. A Talon or Quinn who is behind is in a very bad spot because they can't do the one thing they need to do. If you are with a Talon top who is having a rough early lane, ward hard and stalk your minimap for the enemy jungler. Bot side? GREAT! Push your lane hard (because you are Orianna and this is easy), then roam top and help establish some lane dominance for Talon. LET HIM GET THE KILL! This is huge. You don't need them. You provide the utility in this team comp. All of your damage is just bonus.
Otherwise, ask Talon to swap lanes. If you are able to snag a kill or two mid and put your lane opponent behind, that's a perfect opportunity to make Talon's life easier by sending him mid. You are now fed and can try to shutdown the top laner.
There's lots of things you can do, but of course you won't always pull off a victory. That's just how the game goes. Everytime you lose, get in the habit of asking yourself "How did I do? Did I take advantage of my leads by making plays on the map? Did I minimize my laggings by playing safe when behind and keeping up with my enemy? Did my team even know I was on their team?" Once you answer these questions with your initial feelings, go rewatch the match, and then answer them again. You will be surprised how much your answers will change after seeing yourself play.
Looking at your match history, the games you do win tend to be stomps in your favor, while those you lose tend to be stomps against you. This is a phenomenon called "Silver", and if you learn to avoid doing poorly even in games where the team is off to a bad start and help your teammates do the same, you can escape it more often than not.