ADCs do hard, manual labor called farming and last hitting. And you don't have to. In fact, your job is to make sure everyone else on the team are doing their own labor. Hard labor is a slave's job. Masters don't do that dry "hard labor work".
So if supports aren't the ones farming and last hitting, then they are not slaves. They are the masters of their teams.
[slayer-jinx-catface]
Now quit yer yammerin', and happy supporting!
Big Lincoln2 votes
your name is toby
Telephone Booth1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh7HdQPr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-28T22:52:18.270+0000)
Lmao
Mimy2 votesActually this can be true. Having a Support as a Shot caller simply because they tend to look at the map a little bit more often than others they can actually set things up and tell people when they can go in..
"Enemy jungle is top.. Mid you got about 1 minute to win-it."
Wh1teWu1f1 votesI tried this once when their bot lane showed up mid for some reason. I pinged bot tower for us to push it in and try taking it... My ADC ran from bot side to mid to help defend when there was no need (our jungler was mid and they had a tower) and I couldn't take the tower myself because no damage... I'd never felt more tilted.
Athenes Lulu1 votesI remember screwing my team over because they actually listened to my miscalculated shotcalling. Like, the "taking dragon when we really should have just backed" kind of mistake.
Wasn't pretty, but people do prioritize listening to supports.
Mimy1 votesShot calling is hard. I'm not a shot caller I prefer to be shot called.
Which is why I like ADC... Point me to the nearest thing to attack and I behave like a dog..
-Ults 3 people - (It feels soo good to get 3-5 people in a varus ult and then my team collapses on them!)
"Woof woof "
PermabannedGaren1 votesHaving a Support as a Shot caller simply because they tend to look at the map a little bit more often than others
Source?
Mimy1 votesDo you need a source? What are you a little booty-tickled that I said Support was a good role to Shot-call in?
Any role can shot call.. It's just supports, without having to CS they have a little bit more time to watch the map than minion's HPs dropping.
PermabannedGaren1 votesDo you need a source? What are you a little booty-tickled that I said Support was a good role to Shot-call in?
Any role can shot call.. It's just supports, without having to CS they have a little bit more time to watch the map than minion's HPs dropping.
No, I just want to see some data to support your claim friend.
Mimy1 votesShould I make data? Yoy would think supports looking at the map more would be a given...
Well I guess that depends on the support.. because some supports could probably just be like...
Hmm.. I guess jungler is in the runnings of shot calling too. Good call...
I don't jungle often.. xD but I know that when I so Im looking at the map a lot while taking camps trying to figure out who to gank.. xD
And then my ganks fail... QQ
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesit's harder to stack Q's as nasus than it is to last hit minions. especially once you get your first BF sword. :P
420 grams1 votesI buy relic shield, so I do last hit minions
Athenes Lulu1 votesBut do you do it all the time?
kappa
420 grams1 votesYes, it's a big part of gold income
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesif you feel like a slave as support its because you don't know your role. People like you are the reason people like the OP exist.
You are command. You cannot take command. You solve the problems the big guns can't You make the world go round You are the man behind the curtains You are why the plot was foiled. You are intelligence.
And when your adc moves his scrawny ass without your permission you sit there and you watch that little bitch scrape his knee and slowly turn into a real man, don't go kiss his booboo like a weak bleeding heart parent everytime he fucks up. YOU are the team shotcaller and are the only one who should have time for such things. This is your job and if you have no shots to call its because you are failing hard at said job.
Athenes Lulu2 votesWhen people don't understand the usage of sarcasm and quotations.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesFuck you, I'm a mid main. I do what I want.
Athenes Lulu1 votesfuck you im a support main i do wat i want
like omg pls dont tell me wat to do
Rivuo1 votesNobody says that...
Athenes Lulu1 votesOnce in a while you would get those threads where support players complain about how much they hated the role and how supports are "their ADC's slaves".
Or even just posts.
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh7HdQPr,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-09-29T00:23:27.149+0000)
Once in a while you would get those threads where support players complain about how much they hated the role and how supports are "their ADC's slaves".
Or even just posts.
im an adc main who gives my support blue and lets them take pinks/wards for extra gold
invisiblecat11 votesWow you really are cancerous
Athenes Lulu2 votesthanks
Paroe1 votes... most support primaries are actually useless without an ADC around them. the reason why supports belong to the ADC is because of that; many are simply designed not to function without them.
take soraka as an exmaple. she cant do much alone. Braum? cant do much alone. sona? Again, not much she can do alone. Janna? Leona?
same thing. Whats more, most players below diamond have this... complex where the support is useless, leading to people forgoing the support role and instead building APC in the bot lane. this both furthers and strengthens the low ELO complex that supports are useless. Its a vicious cycle.
Athenes Lulu1 votesMasters and leaders who don't or can't do the hard labor on their own are also useless.
They look "useful" only because they know how to look for workers/laborers and make a use of them.
Çhåryzård1 votesFarming doesn't mean anything if your adc is a stuck up ass who refuses to work as a team in lane and harasses you and belittles you and expects you to cater to their every whim while they call the shots
The people that usually do this are the ones that think they can 1v3 the 2 enemy botlaners and the jg, and then when they die they pin their stupid mistake on you because 'ur the supprt ur supposed 2 save meh u fukn noob fukn grbage supprt'
I don't usually have a problem bot, I help my adc, keep the alive and get them kills and I get the occasional 'nice' or 'gj', I'm happy knowing that I helped. Botlane is supposed to be a team lane, you and your partner have to work together.
It's REALLY annoying when you have the one adc who thinks they are God and that you will be able to heal them no matter what. Like I remember I had a Vayne who i JUST SAVED from a gank, go back into the 1v3 without warning and then after dying started flaming me saying it was my fault they died and I should've kept them healed. Like no way, if you want to be an idiot then I will not be able to save you, I'm not going to risk dying myself if I know you're dead either way.
But overall I don't generally have problems, so idk where this "supports are slaves" thing comes from, been supporting since I joined the game 2 years ago and it's only the occasional douche adc or "im gonna go straight ap support because i didnt want support" person that are problems botlane.
Athenes Lulu1 votesIf anything, ADCs are usually just things I'm gonna have to force myself to work with, whether I like them or not. If they are shit, rude, bad, or I don't like them for any given reason, suck it up learn to deal with them because you're gonna see that as a support main on an almost daily basis, even if your ADC is the same premade you play with almost all the damn time. Often, they don't have the sharpest map awareness or even game sense so they either follow you or you have to "boss" them around, and everything is fine again. Though of course, it's more about teamwork and cooperation, especially if you are someone who can't engage for jack shit.
Once in a while you would come across those "pro support" circlejerk threads bitching and whining on how they're always "undervalued", "always abused", and of course, "enslaved by their teammates", when in reality they really just need to get good at the game. And those were apparently "popular opinion" and are "something Riot really needs to address asap omg". This thread is in hopes of a response to those kinds of threads, if anything.
Sincerely, a support main since season 3.
PermabannedGaren1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yh7HdQPr,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-09-28T22:47:56.770+0000)
ADCs do hard, manual labor called farming and last hitting. And you don't have to. In fact, your job is to make sure everyone else on the team are doing their own labor. Hard labor is a slave's job. Masters don't do that dry "hard labor work".
So if supports aren't the ones farming and last hitting, then they are not slaves. They are the masters of their teams.
[slayer-jinx-catface]
Now quit yer yammerin', and happy supporting!
Shut up and ward dragon like a good little girl and you might get a taste of daddy's milk.
Athenes Lulu1 votesShut up and ward dragon like a good little girl and you might get a taste of daddy's milk.
NO OMG U NOT TEH BOSS OF ME >:((((((((((((((((((((((((((
u r abusive holy shit just like every adc i hav to woerk with omg stfu
im abused now :(((((((((((((((((
Remnar1 votesThat's why I play support Shaco. My ADC knows if they are jerks.. KS incoming.
lel
Sir Fuzzi1 votesIt's not that you're wrong; you're just feeling those downvotes because there's a little bit of salt regarding supports.
The real dilemma here is that everyone in every role is equally capable of flagrant stupidity, but nobody will ever call their own and will probably not learn from mistakes they make-- after all, they're not really under the impression that they made one in the first place.
Athenes Lulu1 votesI was expecting to get some popularity since it's pretty much "pro (bad) support" kappa
Looks like something got lost into translation, and ended up becoming bait.
We all know well enough that every role gets their own shit, but the support circlejerk is the easiest to poke fun of.