Irelia does not need 600 range on her Q

TotalJerk·Nov 10, 2018·5 votes·2,071 views

It's a resetting dash that is among the fastest in the game. On top of that she has E and ult to help her gapclose. Despite all of that her gapcloser has more range than the AAs of almost every ranged champion in the game. Even CertainlyT had enough sense to make Yasuo's E somewhat slow for a dash, give it less range (475) than most ranged champions, and make his only other gap closing tool more difficult to actually hit. Meanwhile Irelia gets such an incredibly strong gap closing tool when she already has two other abilities that enable her to literally just walk up to her goddamn target on hit if she wanted to.

12 Comments

chipndip1Nov 10, 20183 votes

We just nerfed her base movement speed and it hit her so that her mid range match-ups are worse than her top lane match-ups. Why would we THEN nerf her Q if the point of Irelia is to Q to people rather than walk to them?

saltranNov 10, 20181 votes

Because she still needs a (not brutal) nerf ?

chipndip1Nov 10, 20181 votes

Sure, but by that logic we gut Miss Fortune.

Fear the KaynNov 11, 20181 votes

He doesn't know about the Dark Harvest rework

chipndip1Nov 11, 20181 votes

Yeah I do and Idgaf. She's nearing 55% general win rates

saltranNov 11, 20181 votes

If you open the box of the soloQ vs pro play you have to go all way.

If they balanced the game only for soloQ MF would've been gutted years ago, and champs like Azir or Kalista would still be the overtuned mess they were before they gutted them.

chipndip1Nov 11, 20181 votes

Aight, so lemme phrase it like this:

If we're going by the game's actual balance, then Irelia...could be fine? We'll have to see when pros are in season again. She could need a minor tap, but I doubt she'd require much more unless you want to throw her all the way out of play.
If we're going by what the boards keep tossing around as "balance", THEN we'd gut MF.

I think that about covers it.

saltranNov 11, 20181 votes

If we're going by the game's actual balance, then Irelia...could be fine? We'll have to see when pros are in season again. She could need a minor tap, but I doubt she'd require much more unless you want to throw her all the way out of play.

That's why I specially added (non brutal) on the first comment, I'm not asking for Irelia to be gutted and I think that it was clear.

TotalJerkNov 10, 20181 votes

See, that nerf would make sense if you could push her in without fear of getting facefucked every other time you approach the wave.

chipndip1Nov 10, 20181 votes

Aight, and Irelia has to worry about getting peppered until that happens.

If she was overtuned, I'd get your point, but she isn't necessarily overtuned at the moment as far as we can gather with evidence.

Jennifer420Nov 10, 20181 votes

hey maybe riot nerfes her by another 5 ms LOL even youngbuck said he considers this a joke from riot

ankoanko19Nov 11, 20181 votes

Or just reduce the amount of resets she can do? Lmfao she already lost 50 range and a ton of upfront burst since the rework. Her Q can only work on enemy units yet it has a lower range than other dashes who work with ally units or whenever the fuck they want. Irelias Q is not a reliable escape tool, just for sticking power.