Since this game is all about mobility..

YOU BEEN WARNED··17 votes·1,608 views

Why not add in a sexy universal mobility item?

item 1001 of alteration: cost: 1200 gold. 45 movespeed.

Unique ACTIVE: reduce movespeed by 15, you can pass through terrain for 3 seconds. [ 180s CD ]

REQUIREMENT: You must have non-ultimate spells off CD to activate this item.

I just made this on the fly, thoughts ?

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ZPIN2WIN14 votes

Suddenly Garen is viable

WeFlyNoLie3 votes

In my opinion, he already is.

Meep Man3 votes

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Suddenly Garen is viable

Garen "YOU CANT HIDE FROM... DEMACIA!"

Chaotic Reks1 votes

tank meta, even supp Garen is viable

FedAsFuk8 votes

Cool idea but terrible concept. Here are the key issues, the immobile carries, suddenly you have a Kog'Maw with mobility, Jinx with a dash, Syndra with a dash. Doesn't seem like an issue? The main counterplay of these champions and their kind is LACK OF MOBILITY, meaning it is risky to play them but rewarding if you position safely, suddenly that 4 item Draven who can nearly one shot can also dash. Like I said for immobile champs that aren't damage oriented this COULD be ok, but you have to understand why champions lack mobility, it is an important part to balancing them

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

KogMaw Draven Syndra can run if all their spells are up. If they use their Es on you, they can't cast this until it's back up.

FedAsFuk5 votes

SO then by nature it would never be up? I am sorry I misread that part, but no spells on CD means it is never up and is pointless. What more useless items do we need in the game? It would basically be used on fountain? Or you never use spells for the chance at an escape, either way it serves no point

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Yeah, crossing terrain serves no point whatsoever. Those times LeeSin steals dragon and wardhops back to safety means nothing whatsoever.

Udyr can't go through dragon wall, smite steal dragon and head back where he came. No use of this item.

You can't split push with kog'maw then retreat into a wall when 2 enemies chase after you.

You can't make hilarious jukes with this.

You can't chase after someone who flashed over a wall.

Nope, no use at all.

killd0zer5 votes

I'm not really sure what this is trying to accomplish at all. It seems like it would heavily conflict with mobility boots for ganking.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Say you're playing jungle Malphite, you're going tank and enemy carries are fed. You have like item 3110 item 3065.

You ult in, Q and E the enemies and if you calculated the damage correctly; when your Q/E are back up you can cast the boots to escape through a wall.

Similarly if you're ganking and someone blinks/dashes over a wall, you can activate it to chase etc.

ladention4 votes

And if it wears off when you are in a wall?

A Small Dog3 votes

Your champion get's immediately switch to Maokai if stuck in a tree, Malphite if it's a rock. Perhaps in future patches you get Dragonslayer's skin if passing through Drag and tele-frag it after it wears off.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

XD

It works like summoner 4, the closer end you're at will push you towards it. [ think of flashing thick walls, flash range is actually short but it tolerates the blink if you're over half the wall in terms of range ]

WeFlyNoLie3 votes

The problem I have with all these mobility concepts is when people make these, they make them accessible to everybody.

So if everybody can use them, what keeps the already mobile champions from using them as well?

So if Garen takes them and Leblanc takes them, Leblanc still gets more mobility and should have no problem escaping.

Its like if Guy 1 has a sword and Guy 2 has a gun, but you each give them a gun, Guy 2 still has two guns, while Guy 1 only has one. Guy 2 is, in theory, going to be more effective.

Giving something to everybody that some people don't have while others do and it only makes them more effective doesn't really solve the problem.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

... That's why you need all your non-ultimate spells available to use it.

1- Garen is naturally faster than Leblanc given she doesn't use spells.

2- if Leblanc buys these boots, she lost out on Mpen. Garen can use this instead of item 3009 to cross terrain.

WeFlyNoLie1 votes

I chose those two as an example, but my main point is that if you give mobility to a non-mobile champion and you give more mobility to an already mobile champion, the already mobile champion still wins.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Mobility comes with the expectation of you doing something with it, Riot always expressed that "mobile champions must have tradeoffs for their mobility"

E.g Lucian range.

When you pick Gnar a mobile toplaner, you're expected to use that E to position for a good ultimate.

When you pick Leblanc, you're expected to use that mobility to assassinate squishies. Thus the need for item 3020

Buying this extra mobility doesn't help you achieve your goals.

Another example is Shaco, almost never seen using flash. Yes, you can have too much mobility actually.

Kariu Rena3 votes

pls stop spreading your cancer

AyRe CoNteMpT2 votes

udyr happy!

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Udyr actually has slightly less options than other champions since he has 4 non-ultimate spells. You sacrifice item 3009 & item 3047 for this; but yeah you can get over walls now!

Apollocliptic2 votes

Well the base movement speed would have to be lower, not higher, then the active higher, but for very short period. It would work like Blink Dagger in Dota2, but it would need an hourglass like cooldown. A situational item that (for adc reduces dpc, and for mages reduces pen or cdr) sacrifices mobility and other benefits, for brief bursts that might save the day. Passing through a wall, minions and a sudden speed buff might be cool. There's items that give speed buffs already (melee carries and supports mainly) but nothing to deal with terrain. As i said, give it an hourglass or even GA level CD and it might, MIGHT be vaiable

Wheatloaf2 votes

Do you want to turn Malzahar into an assassin? Because this is how you turn Malzahar into an assassin.

EvilRabbitt2 votes

YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD HIDE?!??? Noooope!!!

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Have you tried playing mages without item 3020 ?

EvilRabbitt2 votes

Lucidity boots work too. :)

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Lucidity still gives you DPS in form of "more spells casted".

This item will give you the "surprise buttseks" advantage if used well I suppose, idk if it's enough to 100-0 tho xD

EvilRabbitt2 votes

It does, I buy only athenes for cdr/regen instead of athenes/morellos.

Slamurai Jack2 votes

It'll never happen for the same reason we'll never have an item that applys CC more powerful than a slow. Mobility and hard CC are a huge part of a champion's power budget, and being able to buy them in the form of items would make League practically impossible to balance.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Blink dagger would like to have a word with you.

Slamurai Jack2 votes

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Blink dagger would like to have a word with you.

Blink dagger isn't in League. Hell, Itemization and how champions scale is so different from Dota 2 and LoL that it's kinda pointless to compare the balance of each game.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

I don't know what you're talking about since LoL essentially is a DotA ripoff, most mechanics work the same way. Just that league designers preferred the "high skill cap durrr" path of balancing in favor of less stuns and more mobility.

Rinky Dinky2 votes

summoner 4

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

summoner 4 is no longer an option if it is better than all available options. For the case of boots, there is choice involved.

item 3006 is the cheapest consistent option, keeps ADCs relevant by negating their poor base movespeed in midgame while smoothing their attackspeed.

item 3047 the passive is broken.

item 3111 tenacity is rare.

item 3117 cheapest boots, junglers love this for the price and mobility. [ new one has high impact, short distance mobility with higher price ]

item 3009 fastest consistent boots with the only source of slow resistance in terms of items.

item 3020 flat magic pen is rare.

item 3158 it's good, that's all I'm gonna say about this one.

As you can see boots have high competition between each other and a bunch of rare stats sticked onto them. Summoner spells on the other hand are inferior to flash unless the champion makes a good case for summoner 6.

Durzaka2 votes

The same reason you dont sell range on an item.

Because it is the second strong thing in the entire game, it shouldnt be easily available on an item.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Yeah, but you can have a second life np item 3026.

You can have another wave of minions item 3512.

You can have the power to kill everyone, yup you can have that item 3031.

You can have waveclear item 3074 item 3087 item 3068

But for some reason, you can't have CC and mobility. CC I can /sorta/ understand it would give some champions strong reliable combos. But mobility being denied, really?

Why is summoner 4 ok then? Why is Thresh lantern Kalista ult Bard portal ok then ??

You guys trust too much in traditional methods of balancing the game.

Durzaka2 votes

Yes, because the power of all of that is NOTHING. NOTHING, compared to the power of range and mobility.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

wat

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

You can go ahead and play full tank LeeSin or AP Kalista ( dw, you can build item 3115 to be relevant )

And show me how your "mobility" is better than all the mentioned.

You'll get little to no waveclear and mediocre damage. Go ahead and gain elo with that "mobility".

Durzaka2 votes

I didnt say it was better. I said it was more powerful. There is a very distinct difference.

And people playing Lee Sin full tank all the time and are still very relevant.

There is a reason people started rushing Hurricane on Kalista.

BetaDude401 votes

This could be like those old Yordle-stomper boots way back in the day.

I'd imagine this would have to be very meticulously balanced, though

The Queen Viper1 votes

GG split-push Tryndamere every game ... and would make split-pushing retarded in general.

Please, can you bronze people stop thinking about balance stuff... it just doesn't suit you and you lack the knowledge to do so in the first place.

BetaDude402 votes

Please, can you not use authoritative fallacies when trying to argue with someone? It just doesn't suit you and you lack the mindset to have a logical argument anyway.

The Queen Viper1 votes

Is it so hard to handle the truth huh?

BetaDude401 votes

It's not that I can't handle the truth, its that people keep using this rank excuse as an end-all to an argument. I can handle the truth when you don't phrase the truth in a rude way.

I will admit, not all of us Bronzies have highly advanced mechanics or game knowledge, but hell, we have ideas. Maybe a little constructive feedback would be nice instead of insulting their rank?

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