Sion cannot cast Q for a duration after colliding with R.

YOU BEEN WARNED··119 votes·13,366 views

I've tested this a good 4 times, after landing R on enemies Sion can no longer charge his Q. You can auto attack or move, but you can not charge Q until the stun wears off the enemy.

This is a vital combo for Sion's engage, please look into it.

Thank you.

Sion

52 Comments

RiotRiot Scruffy41 votes

Looked into this bug today, should have a fix in for patch 5.19.

TaoistMaster9 votes

{quoted}

Looked into this bug today, should have a fix in for patch 5.19.

Happy Friday night Scruffy.

Don't work too hard ;-)

-TankGangplank

Hellish Prophecy5 votes

Well, this is awkward.....

IcyPepper1 votes

Talk about WoW...

TaoistMaster1 votes

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Well, this is awkward.....

Son..

Is that you?

Hellish Prophecy2 votes

Aye, father.... I have followed your legendary ways to put an end to Critplanks.

TaoistMaster2 votes

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Aye, father.... I have followed your legendary ways to put an end to Critplanks.

Yes. We have done it.

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ExecutorDill1 votes

Lmao... This is gold^

Disrokous28 votes

You will have a fix for 5.19? Why not hot fix that in for 5.18 so that it can be in the worlds patch? I do not think he would see much play at the world stage if he cannot R Q combo...

Delioth1 votes

It's Sion in the Korean-dominated meta- he's simply too slow and takes too long to ramp up to be honestly viable on the worlds stage anyways. This is Worlds, man- games are decided by minute 15 typically. Yeah, a superhero play or critical failure can change that if one team gets lax, but outside of that the games snowball so fast that Sion slows one team down enough that it's a severe disadvantage.

qetzel1 votes

I would guess bug testing? They probably want to have the worlds patch clean. Hot fixing might spoil that.

TotalJerk1 votes

He absolutely needs that combo. I'd rather they risk putting something out and disable him if it breaks something else than to have him be unplayable.

IcyPepper9 votes

As much as we'd like, not everything can be hotfixed. Things go much smoother if they sail in with the patch.

Not to mention it takes time to fix a bug, it can't be immediate. ;~;

edit: Wait, fuck that. Worlds. HOTFIX PLEASE >.<

LaceUp234 votes

Because it's not Zed or Lee.

Scrooch McSucc1 votes

Sion doesn't see much competitive play regardless.

Brimaz The King2 votes

Why patch 5.19 that's like 3 weeks away

BuzzinTate1 votes

Allow sion to charge his stun while he ults.

HeadHonchkrow1 votes

No.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

might want to fix it for worlds buddy

MegamanEXE791 votes

"But it's not Lee Sin, so...."

-Rito Game(s)

Silents4291 votes

I have a bug where after using any abilities, Sion stops using his voice over, his laughs, jokes, and taunts no longer have audio basically.

No one else in the game could hear him either.

Rinky Dinky4 votes

So your saying he won't be viable for worlds?...

junglerboy161 votes

I always thought this was intended functionality, it's been a bug since his relaunch last fall (I gained him for about 6 months, I have seen it happen consistently since his release).

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

you still have about a week I think before 5.18 launches? You can't throw in some last min fixes this is a pretty BIG bug to how he's played.

TotalJerk1 votes

5.19? So I just can't play Sion for 2 whole patches? This bug cost me numerous teamfights. Why don't you just roll back his 5.17 change until you make it into something that actually works properly?

ExecutorDill1 votes

I actually think this is ok. To compensate buff R damage and his stacking tankiness

ExecutorDill1 votes

I actually think this is ok. To compensate buff R damage and his stacking tankiness.

Btw. Can we expect a small Shen buff in 5.19 so he doesn't get shoved out of lane too hard. I think halving his heal was too strong a hit to his early, his sustain and tankability was already inferior to other top laners not to mention his low base armor, and since he can't intimidate his enemies withcstrong damage (because he has low kill pressure) or make them farm under turret and loose cs, because he has poor waveclear why not give him +2 armor like what gave JarvanIV

Mecha Zero Sion21 votes

Wow. No wonder... i thought someone was stunning me constantly at the exact right time. No ranked for me till this is fixed.

TaoistMaster12 votes

That is a huge bug to sions gameplay

a really important combo

OyddAWqJ5r11 votes

Just tested it. It currently acts somewhat like Riven's Q disabling her auto attacks but not her movements, to which players bypass by using Q -> move -> attack to create a basic attack that is used directly after the Q. The same can be applied to Sion's R but instead of a auto lock-out it locks out his Q instead for some reason.

So until they fix this or if they never fix this, the way to Q after R is to input a move command then Q.

R lands -> right click -> Q and you'll be able to Q right out of R. Still seems weird that it's locked out in the first place though.

But anyway, there's your temporary (or permanent) fix.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Interesting.. Thank you for sharing.

I don't think I'll become an ADC/Riven main for a few days just because of this, though. I'll just skip on Sion, he's not on top of the tier lists anywho.

Olath Quortek4 votes

I have also been experiencing this... Maybe it's an unintended bug caused by the Sion bugfix from last patch:

"Sion's Q - Decimating Smash knockup animation has been extended to match the actual duration of the effect"

Would appreciate some clarification on this Rito... :/

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

I had assumed that was designed, but that would be quite the bugfix buff to him if that's the case.

MajorPain93 votes

Nerf, you mean.

Zulgaines2 votes

{quoted}

Nerf, you mean.

How do you even come to that conclusion in any way possible.

MajorPain92 votes

Because not being able to immediately charge your q, means they have more opportunities to escape its radius?

Zulgaines5 votes

OP speaks of an issue where Sion cannot charge his Q after landing the ult for the stun, the person you replied to said that if it was a bug it would be a buff to him once fixed, you said it would be a nerf.

JSTIN82 votes

Thank god it wasnt only happening to me. I hope they fix this soon, it makes my jungle sion a lot worse with his ganks.

MajorPain91 votes

I thought it was just me. Glad to see confirmation. Need a red reply on this. His combo is really the only reason to pick him.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

You can still use it even before they're stunned, but I have noticed that I can no longer instantly start my q right after hitting ult and have to wait half a second before it will go and I can't just mash q since I could end up stopping the channel early.

MegaManYYZ1 votes

are you smart casting? just curious

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Yes I am.

Nebuul1 votes

Yeah I noticed this in an ARAM last night.

AntiFlash1 votes

Thats why you use your e for the armor shred first

Mirage Seraph1 votes

So that's what was happening a couple games ago, huh? I thought maybe I was doing the combo wrong or something.. Yeah. uh. Rito pls fix.

Talon121 votes

Well until its fixed, you need to either A: move a little before you q or B: use e before q (which would get more overall damage)

Squidblimp1 votes

This happened to my friend.

Tritus11 votes

Thanks for bringing this up. I thought I was crazy. It sucked in ARAM.

Unpaladin1 votes

I always thought there was some funny business with this combo. It was kind of on/off though, as I always did a movement command immediately after the ult hits and then did the Q. Something about doing that feels good, and you stand right on top of them and block their exit. Players should be able to be boring and push only R and Q though, and that's understandable.

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