Does anyone on this balance team even play this game? Do they enjoy being chunked and losing half your HP while you have a 
and Shyvana has no magic pen items except for 
? She's just a tanky melee version of 
, you get hit by one spell and then get chunked, but thank god she can't use it again right aw-oh she did it again, 5 seconds later.
inb4 someone tells me it's balance because "winrate uwu"
Mavëríck3 votesAP Shyvana is squishy as fuck. If you're building her it's to end the game before the 20 minute mark. By the time your enemy gets any significant damage they melt you.
inferïor jungler3 votes[deleted]
ÅåtrôxTheNerfed2 voteslol
The Ecdysiast3 votesBecause all her scaling is AP. It's not a bad thing, and it's not overpowered.
"just a melee version of Xerath"
Do you uh
Do you see the big difference there?
melee
That is, lacking the safety of 4400 range.
General Esdeath 2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YUp9c0k9,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-12T00:26:58.792+0000)
Because all her scaling is AP. It's not a bad thing, and it's not overpowered.
"just a melee version of Xerath"
Do you uh
Do you see the big difference there?
melee
That is, lacking the safety of 4400 range.
Melee version =/= melee range on her damage
Her E has 925 range, that's not melee ranged
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YUp9c0k9,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-12T02:20:43.800+0000)
Melee version =/= melee range on her damage
Her E has 925 range, that's not melee ranged
And her E is only a threat while in dragon form... so if she is not in dragon form she is literally a sitting duck with a gigantic sign that says "free kill". Build MR and watch as her damage evaporates
General Esdeath 2 votesAnd her E is only a threat while in dragon form... so if she is not in dragon form she is literally a sitting duck with a gigantic sign that says "free kill". Build MR and watch as her damage evaporates
Read the post, I have MR, and she still shreds my HP. Her dragon form is based on fury, which she gains by auto attacking. Late game she can just auto attack minions or jungle camps and get it back.
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YUp9c0k9,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T02:52:15.232+0000)
Read the post, I have MR, and she still shreds my HP. Her dragon form is based on fury, which she gains by auto attacking. Late game she can just auto attack minions or jungle camps and get it back.
So... let me get this straight... you let it go to late game? Didn't built MR? And let a champion in her weakest form actually get what she needs in order get her only useful ability back? You are not helping your case at all. Oh wait! You were a squishy who got blasted and are complaining about it! I get it now, it makes perfect sense.
General Esdeath 2 votesSo... let me get this straight... you let it go to late game? Didn't built MR? And let a champion in her weakest form actually get what she needs in order get her only useful ability back? You are not helping your case at all. Oh wait! You were a squishy who got blasted and are complaining about it! I get it now, it makes perfect sense.
I don't know if 31 is late game to you, I feel like late game starts at around 40 minutes. I had MR. I didn't get blasted, we won, but if she ever got close enough for her E I lost half my HP. Did you read or...? No? I'm not surprised, you're just trying to call me a complainer. Interesting....
The Ecdysiast3 votes[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YUp9c0k9,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-12T02:20:43.800+0000)
Melee version =/= melee range on her damage
Her E has 925 range, that's not melee ranged
Every single one of Xerath's abilities has more range than that, with the longest being more than five times as far.
Not only that, but he doesn't have to fill a fixed resource bar by auto attacking just for one ability to deal reasonable damage.
When he's fed, Xerath's ultimate base damage alone, not even counting the AP scaling, deals enough damage to kill a target from 5600 units away.
Don't call a champion overpowered just because you don't ward.
General Esdeath 2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YUp9c0k9,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2019-07-12T02:29:00.956+0000)
Every single one of Xerath's abilities has more range than that, with the longest being more than five times as far.
The longest is an ultimate with a high cooldown, Shyvana's is her E on her dragon form that has no cooldown and is limited by fury she can generate by hitting anything
Not only that, but he doesn't have to fill a fixed resource bar by auto attacking just for one ability to deal reasonable damage.
No, because he instead has a mana pool that he can drain pretty damn quick early game, and needs items to fill it, Shyv just has to fight.
When he's fed, Xerath's ultimate base damage alone, not even counting the AP scaling, deals enough damage to kill a target from 5600 units away.
You're bringing up range again on an ultimate ability that he can miss, especially since his ult doesn't grand vision of the whole area. Shyvana can see in front of her.
Don't call a champion overpowered just because you don't ward.
What does warding have to do with anything about her damage?
Polaris I2 votesJust wanna point out that are not mr
General Esdeath 2 votes[{quoted}](name=Polaris I,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YUp9c0k9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-12T03:12:08.946+0000)
Just wanna point out that
Meant to say magic Pen, my bad, good catch by the way