Zeds issue is that 
is called "Counter play"
Zed with 
at lvl 3 can 100-0 a squishy with one combo and Electrocute
He also counters most all AP champs with 
that takes zero interaction on his part.
Just bad design by riot like 90% of their stuff over that last 5 years.
Anatera42 votesDon't forget the skill of pressing 
. Oh my god, just thinking about pressing this one button makes me hard.
AggressiveWolf8 votesTo be fair as a toplane main the way I play is completely changed by who has ignite in the matchup.
Ryusaether1 votesYeah last time I went Darius with ghost flash and got cheesed by fucking Ornn with Ignite (why on earth did he have that?) I got so tilted that I made it never happen again. I'm the only one allowed to cheese here bitches
SociaI Justice1 votesget fuken shet on dorios ked
AggressiveWolf1 votesyou wot m8
Autumn Grace6 votesyes, and the skill of pressing e on 
to pretty much deal half of the enemy's health with no counterplay except for 
is ok. nice one.
Miyoshi9 votes 's E it's very dodgeable ability. If you don't hit it you loss 20% extra damage that you get after hitting it.
So, if you don't hit it in low levels IT'S IMPOSSIBLE to kill an enemy without the help of your jungler.
Half of enemy's health? really? i can't tell if you are joking.
Andevar6 votesCan't that be said about Zed's Q as well? They're easy to dodge and easy to bait. The only way Zed can "100-0" at lvl 3 with a dirk is if he lands E from his W, both Q's, and auto ignite.
SociaI Justice33 voteswho the fuck has 1100 gold at level 3 lmao
Awoof13 votesAnd already recalled to buy
SociaI Justice5 votesi mean shit if i had 1100 gold at level 3 i'd probably recall and spend it
Snowman Arc1 votesAt that point, I'd probably open mid lol.
Lunar ArcS3 voteshe buys long sword first item, so thats 750. Which is something that can be gotten around level 4-5. Especially if they got first blood
SociaI Justice5 votesi cba doing the actual math but with first blood + perfect cs he would hit level 5 when he has enough for a dirk, and i would like to think that yes assassins that are weak pre 6 could "one shoot" you if they had 3x more gold than you at level 3.
Lunar ArcS5 votesit's really not hard to cs as zed considering his passive is like a minion execute. Not to mention zed is a lane bully who doesn't even need dirk to first blood a mage.
Autumn Grace5 votesTrue, his cs is a lot better with the passive, but he will suffer a butt load of poke from the enemy mage tho.
Everyone else: Freeze the lane and wait for ganks! :D
True, works against bruisers and tanks, gotta love watching your freeze collapse on u immediately by a Ahri Q or Taliyah Q.
Everyone else: Zone with your weq combo! :D so much dmg right
True. Too bad Zed w has a whopping 22 second cd. Punishing him is harder than when he punishes you -- BTW I'm using champions like Ahri as the staple enemy ok? Really love the mobility and punish with early charm :D
SociaI Justice9 votesthe point was that zed is never going to have 1100 gold at level 3 unless you inted 3 kills to him not how hard it is to cs on him, zed isn't a lane bully pre 6 by the way, his actually quite weak against most mids till 6.
The thigh guy26 votesI personally love how i miss the highest damage potion of my kit and get the kill anyways when I have duskblade. :D
Naymliss19 votesJust dodge the auto
Lil Homie busta8 votes
Ha ha
Autumn Grace5 votespress r on
. easy potg
Autumn Grace4 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YQRIn3ph,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-30T10:25:46.320+0000)
I personally love how i miss the highest damage potion of my kit and get the kill anyways when I have duskblade. :D
I personally love how I pretty much suffer from abuse just to get the gold for a duskblade and youmuus :D
zed is overrated. take a look at fizz, leblanc, rengar and (JUST BUFFED) khazik. Just can't understand you people.
Autumn Grace2 votestry that again against any dickhead who picks urgot or galio mid. betchu won't say that again.
Thilmer20 votesI feel like the problem is the extreme gap between AD ítems and AP ítems, more than Zed by himself.
this trap ítem is not counterplay at all. If you rush it, you lose the laning phase hard and are useless during half the match. If you buy it later, the ítem itself is useless, since the enemy asassins are already fed.
On the other hand, this thing has mean "get 1300 gold and get inmortality against AP champions" since I started playing.
Autumn Grace2 voteswhat do you mean = immortality against AP champions?
Zed loses a lot of dmg and momentum buying that instead of 
or 
.
This applies to mages who rush or at least 
as well. You lose the opportunity to rush 
etc.
Also: using in a teamfight makes zed lose 1. his r dmg in it's entirety, 2. makes zed very mispositioned, 3. gives sufficient time for your team to back you up. And what does 
do? gives a tiny ass shield (considering late game) and it only blocks AP dmg. Cannot understand why you think is worse than
5050BS1 votesSee you are forgetting that mid game Zed can Ult combo anyone under 2k hps and kill them BEFORE the Ult pops. This means you have to use RIGHT at the start of his Ult to not die from the combo damage but it does not last long enough to stop the Ult Pop which depending on timing could mean you die to it and Electrocute. So basically he Presses R and gets a kill no matter what. Thats just BAD design.
Autumn Grace1 votesOR you can simply... not run against a assassin 1v1? I'm 100% certain your chance of dying as a adc is less than 50% if you just not misposition and keep your support by your side (Which is pretty much how you should be playing the game.)
Also if he presses R and gets a kill, ok. That's literally his job. And I guess Graves' 1400 crits per auto is very balanced then.
The Davinci Code13 votes*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn] That title :DD Made me laugh so fkin hard ! :D xD
Xhaiden8 votesZed is overrated. Try Kata or Fizz - the easiest way to do Triple. Or even Penta.
BeatzBoyFTW7 votesI love how his ult is basically used purely as an escape, cz why even bother using it for damage when one simple WEQ+Electrocute does the job better?
Beatrice falls7 votesTbh at this point I'm feeling like why does Riot even bothers with kits, just make us instantly die if we get hit by 
R, 
R, 
Q, 
being in range, 
(oh wait that's already the case for them), 
W + Q
Because you can try as hard as you can, even with 2 defensive items you won't survive their burst thanks to overkill unecessary damage
HaIlMonitor4 votesThis post is a lie. The last time you played zed was on 10/16/15... in one for all. You should actually play him then maybe you could figure out how to counter his kit.
DontPhuckWithMe4 votesThe sad thing is that doesn't actually counter Zed at all. It only delays you from dying.
Andevar2 votesBut can't that be said about every counter item or ability?
Taric R, Kayle R, Zilean R, Lulu R, etc all delay you from dying.
Hexdrinker, GA.
Frightning3 votesHad a Jhin raging at me the other day when I actually played Zed mid and got fed and kept killing him when he'd push in. Was funny because my main role is bot lane, so I know his pain all to well. Literally late game I managed to R+auto+E, and then peace out and he was dead from full hp (his team was right there and could do exactly not a damn thing about it too). Won us the game deciding teamfight too.....
Autumn Grace2 votesI think you mean mid game. not late game. cuz if its late game he would definitely not die that easily + he would prob have a support with CC and a 
Cute Cuban3 votesDon't forget he gets a free mini hexdrinker if he takes Nullifying Orb. Anyone with a brain would take it. =)
Kha Kay2 votesAnd obviously u don’t have one hahaha jk
SociaI Justice1 votesa little bit ironic considering people that are actually good at the game take it around 10% of games
Ragnaveil2 votesI feel like the main issue currently (besides damage being up across the board in this meta) is his ult. 100% AD (+ 25 / 40 / 55% of damage dealt) Thats how his ult works currently, and if I had to be honest, that rank 3 ult is the reason why tanks pop like a fucking balloon vs him. Also this: "For the next 3 seconds, the mark stores a percentage of all pre-mitigation physical and magic damage Zed deals to the target, detonating at the end of the duration to deal physical damage." Uh...so armor is to be a counter to him...right....
Aryan MasterRage1 votesYes, the mark dmg is reduced by armor. If it stored after-mitigation damage, armor would count twice.
Btw, which elo you are, if your Zeds are ulting tanks? Zed can absolutely not pop tanks unless he's like 10/0 and the tank is underfed.
Ragnaveil1 votesHe can do it, he just needs this item with his leth items and BC: 
. The amount of armor pen stats just overshadows armor in its current state. Issue with the pre-mitigation is that its a percent of the spell or attack's damage being stored, his shadows allow him to make 2 or 3 of the same spell hit, and with 55% of it being stored to increase the mark damage, it doesn't matter if you have 200 armor. He might not be able to kill something like a Malphite or any tank with damage reduction (Ali R), but if neither of those exist, he can blow them to bits. I've seen it in Diamond.
Aryan MasterRage1 votesWhen I play Mundo and some cocky Zed ults me I receive almost no damage... he has 0 business killing real tanks.
Ragnaveil1 votesMundo has regen. Not many other tanks have that type of thing.
Autumn Grace2 votesTo be fair, Zed can stomp enemies mages who first buy Zhonyas. Except when going up against brainded champions like Annie or Galio who fucks everything up with their base dmg :D
Also: ? really? I swear a galio who is building tank can bust through it with his combo easily. Mages might lose some damage in lane buying plus zed having a , but to be fair, isn't it the same way around?
Zed -> Zhonyas = less dmg dealt | Mages -> Hexdrinker = less dmg dealt Zed -> Hexdrinker = later buy for dmg items | Mages -> Zhonyas = later buy for dmg items
Seriously can't understand how you think it isn't at least balanced. Also in most games no one has a dirk at level bloody 3.
There are many ways to deal with a zed, but players like you just don't try to learn how to counter him. Please use your brain, instead of running onto the boards to whine.
LOLOL2 votesThis game has evolved into a stressful experience, and they don't care. Most games just feel like you're cheated out of a skilled matchup by broken champions, or camped by a jungler who doesn't have to farm anymore and can always catch you with chilling smite.
BlackEyesBlue2 votesAnd as soon as he CAN'T do that? All the Zed mains start to cry.
NO CHAMPION should be able to so easily and safely 100 to 0 anyone! It's just terrible design for a PvP game!