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Where are you going to play the New Soraka?

CrazedPorcupine··1 votes·968 views

SO Soraka's changes have been finalized and will be hitting live next Tuesday (most likely)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CclB1eYUUAAbLML.jpg:large

That's the total changelist for Soraka's minor Rework.

I personally, am going to stop playing Soraka supp, and start taking her Mid beause of how her Q works now. Soraka with loads of AP will be way more potent.

Her Q passive for hitting a champion will cause her W to heal for 310+(110%) AP with 200+(60%) being on inital cast, and the other 110+50% being over the next 5 seconds.

SOOO, If soraka has 700 AP from a typical AP build, she'll be healing for well over 1000 HP per cast if she lands a Q first.

/s I don't know why I was so worried about soraka being absolutely ruined with this update, Now her mid lane dominance is assured.

I mean look at her, 40 cost on Q, massive HP regen for in lane sustain, and MOVEMENT SPEED TO RUN AWAY FROM AN ENEMY AND GUARANTEED SLOWS!!! She'll be fantastic at kiting people around! And once she hits a few items, her self sustain will be so frustrating that no-one could stop her. I mean, her Q heals her for 88+(40% AP) over 4 seconds at rank 5, has a 5 second cooldown, and 40 mana cost. I don't think anyone would be able to stand up to her.

25 Comments

Iqqi2 votes

The new Soraka is not going to be played at all. With the insane amount of damage that people deal in the amount of time we "deal it". She becomes worthless. Her HoT on a target will never be alive long enough to matter on any teammate you would heal. Unless she is placing her HoT on a tank or a bruiser, your ally will be dead before the HoT finishes.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

? Her non-HoT heal got buffed as well, only now she will need more levels to function.

Valderis Vandala3 votes

No her non-Hot got nerfed by 40 points at all ranks.

Water Breathing2 votes

Even though Q has a low cost, it still doesn't have that great a base damage, and the AP ratio is pretty garbage. She is also outranged by many other mages, which she will have a hard time landing a Starcall on.

Also, remember that the 310 + 110%AP heal is misleading because the heal over time doesn't stack with every cast of W, and the heal over time is reduced by GW and ignite.

Still, people will try it and it would probably work, but she lacks hard CC and damage, so you'll need to pick up slack elsewhere.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

Actually it isn't, the HoT is considered a buff granted by Soraka, not a self heal, so it's not reduced by GW.

Next, it doesn't matter how low the base damage/ap ratio is, it's super spammy and does full damage against all targets in the AoE.

Water Breathing2 votes

Yes it is, Rejuvenation is a buff that grants self healing. Soraka will have decreased healing if she has GW on her, all she is doing is giving that same buff of self healing to someone else. It should be effected.

Even with the spam nature of it, 800 range is not a lot. Longer range mages will take advantage of her and she will need to play footsies (which she will likely lose because she has no hard CC and less damage) against mid range mages like Zyra, Ahri, Veig, etc.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

uhhh, what? Rejuvination on ALLIES is not a self-heal

Rejuvination on SELF IS so of course it gets reduced on herself, but on allies it's full strength.

Water Breathing1 votes

I'm going by Shen's old Q, Vorpal Blade.

He could give an ally the self healing buff that Shen got. That buff was reduced by GW, so there is no reason why this shouldn't.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

Soraka's was hard coded so that the heal is from soraka, not a self-regeneration increase. I've tested it on the PBE multiple times. the HoT is not reduced by GW

Krinu1 votes

Is it a regeneration effect (+HP/5) or is it a ticking heal? In short, does it interact with Ardent Censer at all?

CrazedPorcupine2 votes

it's a ticking heal, not a regeneration effect, so each tick (which is every .1 second I believe) refreshes Ardent Censor. So Support Raka does make way better use of Ardent Censor than before, but overall, the lack of AP in the support build just doesn't work out that much.

Krinu1 votes

Hm. I'll have to try it out and see. I dislike the movement speed away from enemies, but granting her carry 6 seconds of Windspeaker's and 9 seconds of Censer with a W cast is a pretty big deal for AS-based champions.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

Soraka is a Utility Kite mage now, not a support.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Why not as Support, but max Q and play harass instead of passive sustain?

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

Because that's lame and nerfed overall because your heal still costs 8% of your max HP, and you don't have any AP, so your W will always cost more than your Q can restore, and you LOSE the Q buff when you cast W on your ally.

OH, and there's not bonus for hitting more than 1 person with Q.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

They changed Rejuvenation so that Soraka would always benefit from the full effect, rather than having to play a minigame of passing it to the ally at the last second. Also, who said you don't have any AP? Only if you don't build it.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

her base heal still has a .6 AP ratio. So that's a sizable base heal anyways, that's with 700 AP a 620 HP heal, nearly 700 if you have Windspeakers.

DeathBurst1 votes

You're right on Rejuvenation, but well, for AP, you just can't build the same amount of AP on a support than on a midlaner. You just don't have the budget for that.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Rest assured, if anyone ever takes her midlane in LCS the nerfs are going to be swift and deadly.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

at Which point she'll be completely useless.

No flash no life1 votes

Woot, now I dont even need w to get healed from q. Perma slow opponent and more speed to run from eve and hecarim. Not to mention shorter cooldown allowing me to spam q every 1s or so. Gonna be fun to solo lane in urf.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

honestly, even in normal games, the constant Q spam is oppressive as hell.

Lyless1 votes

oh they ruined her? Of course they did. Only 4 champs I like playing and screw this up too! Geez!

Valderis Vandala1 votes

HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF... something, I don't know. They finally removed the fucking annoying bullshit minion heal targeting, sweet blessings indeed.

The new Q looks ok, should be workable just fine. Its sort of a "burst" nerf while being a damage "buff" late game, lets just hope we can reliably get slows on people.

The E seems ok-ish, still just a nerf in terms of rapid healing ability while still costing stupid amounts of your own health which you can now only refill much, MUCH slower.

Overall it's still a nerf except for the movement speed, which is pretty sweet to get, she really needed something like this. I bet people will start to hate her the same way they hate Ahri for her movement speed. XD

I still would not take her mid though, she still has only 1 damage ability (W doesn't count) and its not exactly a reliable one at long range so she's just not mid material in a serious game. She'll stay support and heal with less burst but poke more.

At least she's not completely gutted this time. XD

CrazedPorcupine2 votes

E still does lots of damage, and is very reliable, Q's travel speed is still fast enough, and it's cooldown short enough, and the fact that her regen is 88(+40%) AP over 4 seconds, which isn't too bad. her Q's damage is also high enough that it can 2 shot caster minions, (Much like Lulu's Q) Making her able to decently waveclear with Q max. Her Q cost is also low enough that you can spam that way more than any opposing mid laner can, and be absolutely fine on mana. Once you get RoA or a Mana regen item, (I personally like RoA over anything else as first item), You can literally spam Q forever without ever worrying about going OOM.

Also because of her W's insane base AP ratio, and Q's transferance, granting up to a 100% AP ratio over the HoT duration, you can heal for so much more than on live if you build pure AP.

Support Raka is well and truly dead. All hail the solo lane Raka!!!

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