Riot, about the Mastery Changes currently on PBE....

Sahn Uzal·Oct 21, 2016·14 votes·1,168 views

Could you please consider not-putting Greenfather's Gift and Fresh Blood in the game?

Ranged Toplaners are already really strong, which most Toplane mains hate. They feel incredibly oppressive and are horribly unfun to play against. Let's be honest here. Please. Nobody other than the ones who play Ranged Toplaners like the current state of Toplane....

And as a Gangplank main ... I really do not want to see him get laning power again. Speaking of Gangplank, could you please make Bandit on Attack rather than On-Hit? It wouldn't affect the intended users of the mastery at all, and it would put Gangplank in a much healthier state, he might end up quite weak though.

18 Comments

Meep ManOct 21, 20166 votes

I would be fine with them putting these into the game if item 1054 actually provided note worthy resistance against Ranged champions! Seriously, this item is just kind of... not good. If Riot doesn't want to buff it, reduce Greenfather's Gift to 2% for Ranged and Fresh Blood to 5 (+0.75 per level) damage for Ranged.

RalanrOct 21, 20163 votes

Well they finally made a mastery for Ivern to abuse.

How many patches is this? 2?

Sahn UzalOct 21, 20161 votes

Oh shit, Must ban Tree Man :^)

GULAG 4 UOct 21, 20161 votes

Teeman op

6SfoolOct 22, 20162 votes

They should allow these, but buff the resolve tree so that it counters poke more. Currently everyone reaches into the ferocity and cunning tree, but nobody but tanks goes into resolve. Give back the percent health increase on Veteran's scars, offer a mastery that increases regen when taking champ damage, or offer a mastery that reduces minion damage by 50% when damaging and taking damage from an enemy champ (25% for ranged), which would replace explorer.

Wolfram OxfordOct 21, 20161 votes

When people pretend to like a champion so they seem more credible when asking for nerfs.

RalanrOct 21, 20164 votes

To seem more credible.

He also mains GP so...

Sahn UzalOct 21, 20166 votes

I am a Gangplank main, and I love him more than any other champion. And I do not think Gangplank is very strong right now.

HOWEVER, I think his abuse of the Bandit mastery is simply unhealthy. When I say I despise Ranged toplaners, but say Gangplanks Q harrass (that doesn't lose him any gold because bandit) is fine, I'd be a fucking hypocrit.

ToastersaotOct 21, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tidal Tyrant,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YLVU3gHa,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-10-21T16:56:32.682+0000)

I am a Gangplank main, and I love him more than any other champion. And I do not think Gangplank is very strong right now.

HOWEVER, I think his abuse of the Bandit mastery is simply unhealthy. When I say I despise Ranged toplaners, but say Gangplanks Q harrass (that doesn't lose him any gold because bandit) is fine, I'd be a fucking hypocrit.

I think it works thematically, it just sends his gold generation through the roof. If we changes his interaction with it, we could maybe revert some of the nerfs to his barrels. Although, as a GP main myself, if these masteries were to go through, I will abuse them. I'm sorry, but LP is too good for me to pass up.

Sahn UzalOct 21, 20162 votes

With Bandit gone, he still has his Gold Plunder passive. The difference is that he needs to use his Q to farm instead of Harrass. I'd love to see Riot put some power back in Powder keg, but more than anything, I'd want reliability, not being RNG reliant :/

ToastersaotOct 21, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tidal Tyrant,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YLVU3gHa,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-21T17:51:35.424+0000)

With Bandit gone, he still has his Gold Plunder passive. The difference is that he needs to use his Q to farm instead of Harrass. I'd love to see Riot put some power back in Powder keg, but more than anything, I'd want reliability, not being RNG reliant :/

I know that this is probably unpopular as an opinion, but I would want the crit to be removed from Parrrley and Barrels. It can make a 1% crit rune deal so much AoE damage with Trinity. Instead maybe his barrels deal 150% damage as a compensation buff?

Sahn UzalOct 21, 20161 votes

As I said, I despise RNG, but that would simply make his Midgame a lot stronger because he'll go full armor pen, but then he doesnt have lategame crit so his lategame is shit :/ I'd love to see his interaction with Crit chance changed to Ashe-passive-like-crit

Over InnsmouthOct 21, 20161 votes

Are you an egg?

MunchCrunchLunchOct 21, 20161 votes

if they fix bandit on gp we might get some gp buffs. specifically. the old 5 barrels and the old recharge rate. its too damn slow. even with 45% cdr and late game.

Sahn UzalOct 21, 20166 votes

As much as I loved the old 5 barrel stuff, There simply wasnt enough down time on his damage output. Fucking up a combo wasn't really punishing because you'd be able to do another 3 barrel combo really soon after.

And that's what GP is all about! High counterplay, high reward. If you deny/dodge Gangplanks 3 barrel combo, there will be some serious down time before he can be a factor in the fight again.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 21, 20161 votes

i mean i dont care about ult buffs its his strongest part tbh more so than barrels. idk maybe W cd. but i dont thnk it does much. i mena you cant do crit plank one shot like old gp. unless u get fire dragons and get fed. i'd like to see more barrels output

ToastersaotOct 21, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tidal Tyrant,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YLVU3gHa,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-10-21T17:43:43.485+0000)

As much as I loved the old 5 barrel stuff, There simply wasnt enough down time on his damage output. Fucking up a combo wasn't really punishing because you'd be able to do another 3 barrel combo really soon after.

And that's what GP is all about! High counterplay, high reward. If you deny/dodge Gangplanks 3 barrel combo, there will be some serious down time before he can be a factor in the fight again.

I'm sorry everybody, but as a GP main, I will abuse those masteries for LP.

LazyW0lfOct 22, 20161 votes

When I saw Greenfather's Gift, I thought about how bot lane will be and how much extra power is going into ranged supports. I can definitely see how much power will also go into ranged toplaners. It should be a keystone IMO.